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Old 09-28-2021, 08:31 PM
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Default Hobby Myths!

There are surely many hobby myths.

Here are a few:

"i don't like the E91 sets because of the "generic" drawings."

Actually the E91A set reflects actual players, and the B and C sets simply use those images and change players names from the A set.

"Orange borders can be found only in Series 3 cards."

Actually Orange borders can be found in other series including Series 1 and 6.

Let's here some other myths!

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Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame. Wait.....
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T206 Wagners are super rare.
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SGC is worth as much as PSA.

(Just poking the bear, I love SGC up to 10% of my collection).
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T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.
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The 1952 Topps Mantle is his (ahem) ROOKIE CARD!!!!!!!
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1939-47 Salutations Exhibits are separate from the 1947-66 Exhibits and were issued during those years.





1948 HOF Exhibits were issued in 1948.

1948-52 Champions Exhibits and 1948-52 Football Exhibits were issued in those years.



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T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.
While I know there are a number of issues with single and low double digit pops that are significantly more rare than T206, I find it interesting that even a "mainstream" issue like the 1914 Cracker Jack is close!

T206 Wagner:
PSA examples = 36
SGC examples = 14

1914 Cracker Jack Wagner
PSA examples = 45
SGC examples = 38
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As a quick shorthand I like 7 year peak WAR as a comparative tool because it discounts the cumulation effects of a long career and also removes the penalty for a player who probably stayed around a few years past his expiration date.

Babe Ruth: 85.3 7yr-peak WAR

Barry Bonds: 72.7 7yr-peak WAR

Mike Trout: 65.1 7yr-peak WAR

Mickey Mantle: 64.7 7yr-peak WAR

Don Mattingly: 35.7 7yr-peak WAR

Rusty Staub: 33.3 7yr-peak WAR

Rabbit Maranville : 30.5 7yr-peak WAR

Harold Baines: 21.7 7yr-peak WAR


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PSA’s motto: “Never get cheated”

Of course, unless, you are duped into buying PSA authenticated HOF reprints of 1914 cracker Jacks and/or t206s
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I guess you could sum up the myth as:
"Buying a graded card insures the card is authentic"

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PSA’s motto: “Never get cheated”

Of course, unless, you are duped into buying PSA authenticated HOF reprints of 1914 cracker Jacks and/or t206s
Don’t forget Tattoo Orbits. PSA for years has let many dozen Dover reprint Orbits get graded.
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When I first saw the news that him and Lee Smith had been voted in, I had to double check the website URL to make sure I wasn’t on The Onion.
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Prices are softening seems to be a myth.
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You are less likely to buy an altered card if it is graded by PSA instead of raw.
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It's a limited edition so it must be valuable.
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When I first saw the news that him and Lee Smith has been voted in, I had to double check the website URL to make sure I wasn’t on The Onion.
Bruce Sutter, Jack Morris, Alan Trammell and Larry Walker say hello.
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Looking only at the BIN prices that (unsold) cards are listed for on eBay tells you what your cards are actually worth.
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Bruce Sutter, Jack Morris, Alan Trammell and Larry Walker say hello.
Come on Old Timer. Trammell is one of the best shortstops of all-time, and Walker's all-around numbers are ridiculous. The others, well, let's say I agree.
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Come on Old Timer. Trammell is one of the best shortstops of all-time, and Walker's all-around numbers are ridiculous. The others, well, let's say I agree.
Trammell (70.7 WAR; 44.8 peak 7 year WAR, good for 4th all-time among SS); Harold Baines (38.7 WAR; 21.7 peak 7 year WAR, 74th among right fielders).
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Bruce Sutter, Jack Morris, Alan Trammell and Larry Walker say hello.
Larry Walker was one of the most naturally gifted players I’ve ever watched. Whether he was batting, fielding, or on the bases his instincts were just plain awesome. A career .313 hitter with 7 gold gloves? If not for several injury shortened seasons his numbers would have been phenomenal.
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This yellow/blue/green starburst
ultra sparkle terra-fractor
road jersey parallel
backwards cap variation
super duper extra ludicrous short print
rookie patch auto
numbered to 3.142857

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This yellow/blue/green starburst
ultra sparkle terra-fractor
road jersey parallel
backwards cap variation
super duper extra ludicrous short print
rookie patch auto
numbered to 3.142857

is a good INVESTMENT
Eric do not confuse was with The number to pie but if you are going to then right it out in its entirety
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Would be near mint if not for missing piece of card. Fabulous opportunity!
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Would be near mint if not for missing piece of card. Fabulous opportunity!
That's not a myth, PSA calls that a qualifier instead of accurately grading a card.
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Eric do not confuse was with The number to pie but if you are going to then right it out in its entirety
It’s 3 and one-seventh.
Pi is a slightly different number
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It’s 3 and one-seventh.
Pi is a slightly different number
There was a mathematician, Ludolph van Ceulen, who spent most of his life calculating Pi to 35 digits. When he died, he had it engraved on his tombstone.
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