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Vintagecatcher 09-28-2021 08:31 PM

Hobby Myths!
 
There are surely many hobby myths.

Here are a few:

"i don't like the E91 sets because of the "generic" drawings."

Actually the E91A set reflects actual players, and the B and C sets simply use those images and change players names from the A set.

"Orange borders can be found only in Series 3 cards."

Actually Orange borders can be found in other series including Series 1 and 6.

Let's here some other myths!

Patrick

sycks22 09-28-2021 08:47 PM

Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame. Wait.....

BobC 09-28-2021 08:53 PM

T206 Wagners are super rare.

sreader3 09-28-2021 09:03 PM

SGC is worth as much as PSA.

(Just poking the bear, I love SGC up to 10% of my collection).

Orioles1954 09-28-2021 09:15 PM

T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.

Eric72 09-28-2021 09:18 PM

The 1952 Topps Mantle is his (ahem) ROOKIE CARD!!!!!!!

Exhibitman 09-28-2021 09:20 PM

1939-47 Salutations Exhibits are separate from the 1947-66 Exhibits and were issued during those years.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eball%202.jpeg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eball%201.jpeg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ist%20card.jpg

1948 HOF Exhibits were issued in 1948.

1948-52 Champions Exhibits and 1948-52 Football Exhibits were issued in those years.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...atalog%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../June27_10.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...atalog%202.jpg

BobC 09-28-2021 09:40 PM

The 1933 Goudey is Ruth's rookie.

SteveS 09-28-2021 10:13 PM

The TPGs are infallible, and when you see a grade on a flip you know it has to be the rock-solid truth.

samosa4u 09-28-2021 10:17 PM

In Canada, it's this:

O-Pee-Chee cards were cut with WIRES!

Snowman 09-29-2021 01:51 AM

A couple of my recent favorites...

-Probstein shill bids their own auctions.

-PSA's grading standards haven't changed in recent years.

ClementeFanOh 09-29-2021 03:15 AM

Hobby myths
 
Snowman- try this myth: PSA actually HAS standards that they honor:)

Trent King

parkplace33 09-29-2021 03:57 AM

52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣

sportscardpete 09-29-2021 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2149106)
52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣

Is this not true??? Have I fallen for this the whole time? I thought they are still in the Atlantic.

mrreality68 09-29-2021 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC (Post 2149086)
The 1933 Goudey is Ruth's rookie.

To me that is one of the Greatest Ones of all time

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-29-2021 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2149106)
52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣

I thought it was the Hudson river?

Leon 09-29-2021 06:38 AM

According to TPGs all W cards are hand cut (maybe minus w600).

.

Exhibitman 09-29-2021 06:41 AM

E282 Oh Boy Gum is an E card.

hcv123 09-29-2021 06:45 AM

How about
 
"The last one sold for $XX - so that's the current market price!"

Leon 09-29-2021 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2149146)
"The last one sold for $XX - so that's the current market price!"

I agree. When someone quotes vcp I tell them to buy it there.
.

hcv123 09-29-2021 06:55 AM

Interesting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 2149073)
T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.

While I know there are a number of issues with single and low double digit pops that are significantly more rare than T206, I find it interesting that even a "mainstream" issue like the 1914 Cracker Jack is close!

T206 Wagner:
PSA examples = 36
SGC examples = 14

1914 Cracker Jack Wagner
PSA examples = 45
SGC examples = 38

Johnny630 09-29-2021 07:04 AM

GM left the hobby.

Tao_Moko 09-29-2021 07:17 AM

"L@@K" and "Read Below" actually make people do those things instead of immediately abandon the auction.

packs 09-29-2021 07:43 AM

That the 1948 Leaf set was issued in 1948.

SteveS 09-29-2021 07:47 AM

That it's still a hobby and not a business.

Jason19th 09-29-2021 07:49 AM

That there is a baseball produced prior to 1995 that is not signed by Bob Feller or Buck O’Neil

darkhorse9 09-29-2021 08:31 AM

Someone cracking and resubmitting a graded card doesn't affect the population report.

jsfriedm 09-29-2021 08:33 AM

I've seen some say versions of this: That players' card prices are proportional to the skill of the player, so if the numbers say player A (maybe Henry Aaron) was as good or better than player B (Mantle?), then if his cards aren't the same price, they are "undervalued."

clydepepper 09-29-2021 09:13 AM

1.) It's possible to buy cards that you want when you want to and keep a healthy marriage.



2.) Kevin Maas is the next big star.



3.) Players' Autographs - even purchased in-person, are worth just as much if NOBODY can read the name.
.

Huysmans 09-29-2021 09:40 AM

Thousands of new collectors who instantly spend five and six figures on cards have just entered the hobby during COVID.

jingram058 09-29-2021 09:42 AM

Anyone remember Brien Taylor, the next Yankees superstar?

riggs336 09-29-2021 09:55 AM

The existence of Lester Bell in the Goudey R309-2 set.

Bigdaddy 09-29-2021 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2149094)
In Canada, it's this:

O-Pee-Chee cards were cut with WIRES!

That's interesting, I thought they were just torn apart.

Bobbycee 09-29-2021 10:32 AM

Chicks really dig T206 collectors.

brianp-beme 09-29-2021 11:10 AM

That big name Hall of Famers are the most aesthetically pleasing cards in each set.

Brian

egbeachley 09-29-2021 11:34 AM

The first card of a player, designated his Rookie Card, should be worth more than all others.

G1911 09-29-2021 12:31 PM

N28, picturing Clarkson with Boston, a deal made in April of 1888, remains frequently listed as an 1887 set. Tons of dates on old sets are complete fiction.

Eric72 09-29-2021 01:11 PM

Johannes Peter Wagner
Occasionally referred to as "Hans"

Somehow, people call him HO-niss

His T206 card, according to myth, was pulled from production because he balked at the idea of his image being used to sell tobacco.

JollyElm 09-29-2021 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 2149153)
"L@@K" and "Read Below" actually make people do those things instead of immediately abandon the auction.

287. Slyopic (also Glaucomedy)
The utilization of ‘at signs’ to imitate eyes and form the word “L@@K” in an auction title.

JollyElm 09-29-2021 02:03 PM

Having a card listed at a ridiculously exorbitant, usurious eBay price and thinking that offering a 5% OFF 'discount' (yes, that's air quotes) to watchers will lead to a sale.

JeremyW 09-29-2021 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2149258)
Johannes Peter Wagner
Occasionally referred to as "Hans"

Somehow, people call him HO-niss

His T206 card, according to myth, was pulled from production because he balked at the idea of his image being used to sell tobacco.

It is interesting. One of the all-time greats & even today, people don't know how to pronounce his name.

Yoda 09-29-2021 02:07 PM

The dog ate my baseball cards!
And I would add Cal Ripkin, as well as Feller and O'Neil, to the happy signers club.

timzcardz 09-29-2021 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2149279)
The dog ate my baseball cards!
And I would add Cal Ripkin, as well as Feller and O'Neil, to the happy signers club.

If you see a Cal Ripkin autographed baseball, it is a forgery!

butchie_t 09-29-2021 02:21 PM

I'm only gonna buy these cards in the upcoming auction and then I am done for the year buying cards. No really I am........

Snowman 09-29-2021 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2149185)
1.) It's possible to buy cards that you want when you want to and keep a healthy marriage.

It's definitely possible. My wife couldn't care less which cards I buy or how much I spend on them. She'll even sign for the deliveries and puts them in the safe for me. I left a 33 Goudey Babe Ruth on the counter the other day. She picked it up and said, "this one looks old. Is he good?" :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huysmans (Post 2149189)
Thousands of new collectors who instantly spend five and six figures on cards have just entered the hobby during COVID.

I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but I would take the over on there being at least 20,000 new collectors who joined the hobby over the past 2 years who have spend at least five figures on cards. And it wouldn't shock me at all if the true number was much higher. Unless you're talking specifically about pre-war collectors only, then the numbers would be a lot lower obviously. But there are a ton of new collectors on the modern side. Hell, I'd wager good money that there are at least 1,000 new collectors who have spent 5 figures on cards since the pandemic who aren't even old enough to drive a car yet.

h2oya311 09-29-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timzcardz (Post 2149284)
If you see a Cal Ripkin autographed baseball, it is a forgery!

That is truth...not a myth.

BeanTown 09-29-2021 02:27 PM

That value and rarity go hand in hand.

Aaron Seefeldt 09-29-2021 02:37 PM

- That autographed vintage cards are authentic if/when slabbed by PSA

JollyElm 09-29-2021 02:46 PM

I fixed the thread title for you...

Hobby Myths Complaints!

mrreality68 09-29-2021 02:50 PM

Based on Some Ebay Sellers

An Authentic Reproduction is Authentic


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