Different Year, Different Card Company, Same Image.....

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Posted By: Scott Dango

Its always interesting to see recycled images, especially when they are made by entirely different companies, are different sizes and have different styles....This differentiates them from cards using the exaxt same image (E90-1 and E102 "Set of 25" Hans Lobert for example)

How difficult would it have been in 1916 for The Sporting News (M101-4,M101-5) and all the companies who used those images that year (Famous & Barr, Herpolsheimer Co, and Bucyrus Brewing Co. for instance), to use a different image than the one already used two years ago by Cracker Jack....

Makes you wonder if Felix Mendelsohn owned all the image rights during the time or another person controlled the image market, or a person controlled Mendelsohn for that matter!

Post any examples if you would like....

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Posted By: Anonymous

I usually collect the following two sets because they contain pictures not found in other sets. Here is an exception:

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

the images were widely shared, and although Mendelsohn used about two dozen shots found in Cracker Jack, Cracker Jack itself used several that were first used in The Sporting News Supplements a few years before that.

Mendelsohn deserves credit for using "new" photos in his 1917-1920 m101-6 set. Some of these were "borrowed" a full ten years later by the ice cream sets and w502. Here are two:

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Posted By: David McDonald

From this image . .


came these . .


and this, too . .

(acrylic painting by SuperJen Ettinger)

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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

Todd is that the first use of that image of Speaker on a card? I must have seen it on at least 10 different issues...sometimes with larger or smaller projections but always the same image.

Here's that same Schalk image again, used in 1927



and the same Meyers - the BF2's used the photos from the M101-4/5 sets:

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

Yes it's the first use of that image for Spoke on a card. You can tell because he's in a Cleveland uniform, and he did not join them until 1916. Speaker is not in the 1916 m1014&5, and his 1917 Collins-McCarthy card uses a different, standing with bat on shoulder pose.
Here's another one, although I cannot recall which other sets use this Sisler:

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

You obviously can't do that today but why were they so prevelant back then? Did they simply not have any copyright laws?

marty

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Posted By: scott dango

anyone have more info they can add?

too bad we dont have a time machine then we can figure out all these little questions we have as collectors.....

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I'm sure it was a case of the candy, tobacco or what have you companies not wanting to spend money to take their own photos when they could just buy the images from the photographers much cheaper.