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Old 09-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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Posted By: MB3

Looks like Milehigh auction has some unreal cards for sale. Has anyone ever heard of a olive bordered card from 1911? It has a Red Sun back.

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:05 PM
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Definitely some amazing pieces up on the block. As for the Red Sun set, check this out(courtesy of Old Cardboard):

http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t211/t211.asp?cardsetID=705

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:33 PM
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Posted By: MB3

Thanks Jason. I was unaware of the Red Sun back.

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:39 PM
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Leon,

Are all of the banner-ad positions sold, hence the reason for a post/ad each day about Mile High's auction?

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:39 PM
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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Easy, hoss, or else you'll be assigned Mile-High-promotion duty for tomorrow.

So start thinking now of something nice to say.

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:45 PM
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Posted By: MB3

I just had never seen a Red Sun back and was trying to figure out a print run on the card.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Hey, I've only got 24 hours tomorrow and two hands. No way can I pull that off.

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:18 PM
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Posted By: leon

I got a voice mail on Friday that said my statement on the board was classless concerning the 2 for 1 Four Base Hit debacle. I better not say anything else.....and btw, all of the front page banner ads are sold. They have been since day 1.

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:25 PM
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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind


Red Suns are amongst the most difficult type cards

Only 29 cards have been graded by PSA

At the moment, the SGC Population Report is
not available on line.

We suspect the total number of SGC and PSA graded examples
is less than 100.

The highest grade examples are PSA 6 and SGC 80

A further note, since Vintage Baseball Card Prices has begun tracking auctions in 2006
only 20 Red Sun cards have been traded in public auctions. The most recent example was also
the highest graded among the 20, It was a PSA 5 and was sold by Mastro earlier
this summer for $1560.

Our example is an SGC 80-we were lucky to find it at a dealer's table at the first Reading show


Challenging set, indeed,


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Old 09-06-2008, 07:27 PM
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Posted By: MB3

Hey thanks Bruce. I have seen so many baseball cards but never one of those. If only 29 have been graded then they have to be real rare. MB3

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:30 PM
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Posted By: Rob D.

And the Red Sun <<news flash: they're rare> is in whose auction again?

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Posted By: MB3

I looked on the PSA registry and they do not even list the 1910 olive bordered series however when i punched in the player it is a population 1/1. It also says minor league card.

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Bruce your card has to be a real treasure. Great find. MB3

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:53 PM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

just go with T211 Red Sun. Whilst (you missed your whilst in your post Bruce......) PSA and SGC only have 100 or so potentially graded, I know of a couple board members who each have a lot of them that are likely ungraded. I don't see this issue as one that people are falling over to get graded. The # of high grade ones out there is miniscule and a lot of people won't grade stuff that would wind up in 3's 4's or 5's. Just my opinion on that. The cards are sufficiently scarce enough that grading doesn't enhance them a ton unless they're really nice.

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Posted By: MB3

Tom i only found 1 of the Greminger to be graded.

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By any chance, are you the consignor of, or related to the consignor of, said card?

Edited to add: If not, please accept my apologies and just consider this "a friendly bump."

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Posted By: Jay

Greminger is one of the more common T211s. They are scarcer than T210s and T209s but, if all you are looking for is a type card, not rare. The card in the auction is a $500-$600 card.

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Old 09-07-2008, 08:24 AM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I agree with Tom and Jay...


Especially about there being some Red Sun cards out there in the hands of folks who aren't inclined to get them graded.

I just got through swapping a Red Sun for a Red Sun with a board member. Old fashioned trading and haggling may well be the best way to get one.

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Posted By: MB3

I appreciate all the insight and comments regarding Red Sun back. It was the first one i have ever seen and 100 dollars seemed like nothing for the card. I guess putting the 75 card set together is virtually impossible.

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Hello all,
I have never registered with an auction house, more of a grass roots kinda buyer. I however see something in this auction that I kind of need for a Christmas present! Can I get in without any background with the auction houses?
Thanks for the help,
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Posted By: Anthony N.

When I first registered with a few auction houses I gave my ebay feedback and the names of a few prominent dealers I'd bought from recently. Never had a problem.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Bob, I don't know you personally, but if you've done business with some of the regulars here on Net54 that could also help as a reference with MileHigh.

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Posted By: leon

Be perpared to speak with someone on the phone also. Many auction houses will call references or you personally, if you are not known when registering for their auction.

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Posted By: MB3

I was wondering who the 75 players were in the set and are they all southern league players?

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I think that back in the 70s and 80s a fellow could have had a chance at buying Red Suns one at a time and putting together the 75 card set. It would have required buying out Lew Lipset's stock of them, and all of Larry Fritsch's, plus having some good fortune at shows.

Today I do not think it possible. To have a chance you'd need to buy one or two near sets, then do some trading with old timers and whales.

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Posted By: B OBrien

That's bad. I kind of target sellers with bad scans and low feedback on ebay! Maybe I can track down a couple of the folks that bought from me off the B/S/T.
Thanks,
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Posted By: shane Leonard

Leon,
Did you happen to speak with Brian on your unwarranted/unfair comments that you made on Friday? I know he left you a message and then you tried calling him back and then you left word on his voice mail. Pretty rude thing for you to do in my opinion. I actually think you are a pretty cool guy and I for the life of me can't imagine you starting off that thread negatively for no reason.

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Yes, I called him back and he didn't call me back concerning the fair but unwarranted remarks.

edited unnecessary remarks to be kinder and gentler......

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Does this mean I can't use you LEON as a reference when I sign up for Mile High Auctions!! 

i think I am already registered with them anyway....

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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind



We were finally able to access the SGC Population Report.

As it turns out the distinguished grading service has only
graded 145 T215 Red Sun examples

Only three such examples have achieved a grade of 80 or higher.

This is clearly one of the toughest sets to find ultra high grade examples.

Good luck to MB in his quest for a high grade example


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I would like to see one of the cards in a 7 holder.

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