Bust Out Your Tuxedos!! SGC Graded Card Reveal

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Any folks here interested in sharing your returned graded card submissions, particularly from SGC? If so, show us what you got! I know many here view SGC & PSA as the most respected TPGs, cost and grading delays notwithstanding.

Recently, I sent in a large number of cards of various age and condition; a couple were really rough, and I expected grades of “1” but just wanted them slabbed. Others were newer and nicer. The content crossed several sports. Was interested to see if they still grade in a manner consistent with the past two decades, given that I have not sent in an order since the start of the pandemic. For many years, I’ve sent in cards of all types to be graded and gotten very used to the standards. In short, I’d have to agree with what many have been stating: grading has become slightly more strict. It seems less about eye appeal and more about technicalities, which is fine, as long as there is consistency.

Here are a dozen images from my order being returned. Given that SGC now scans all items (hi-rez, no additional charge), I have a clear picture of each item. Overall, love SGC’s service and holder, but have to agree they are tougher than ever… what does a dude need to do to get a 1.5 LOL! The service was fast and I’m still a satisfied customer, though I’d love a lower cost bulk submission level and a set registry!

Feel free to share your ‘returns’ here.

Note:
20-25 day service @ $30 each
Submitted online order & shipped: 2/9/22
Delivered to SGC by USPS: 2/14/22
Received by SGC: 2/15/22
Grades Popped: 3/1/22
Shipped back: 3/2/22

[realbigfatdog]

A few of my most recent

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[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by realbigfatdog

A few of my most recent

Obviously a New York fan, you've got some really nice items there!
Thanks for sharing.

[Lucas00]

One of my recent ones.

[Snapolit1]

Looks like SGC has gotten .5 happy.

[Casey2296]

SGC is definitely tougher than PSA on grading, both pre-war & post-war. Recent returns form SGC, I wouldn't say they are unfair on the pre-war but can't see how the two post war didn't go higher.
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[kaddyshack]

Still scratching my head on this recent submission ?

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by kaddyshack

Still scratching my head on this recent submission ?

Wow Roy, unless there's a small crease hiding somewhere on that Snider, it looks like at least NM-MT. Beautiful card!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Two more:

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Wow Roy, unless there's a small crease hiding somewhere on that Snider, it looks like at least NM-MT. Beautiful card!

That's what I was thinking. Wow, nice Snider. Here's mine for comparison. Your 4 is much nicer. It has to have a surface crease somewhere, keeping it no higher than a 4? They are tighter than Crabs Ass lately. The new SGC 5 is a PSA 7

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

SGC is definitely tougher than PSA on grading, both pre-war & post-war. Recent returns form SGC, I wouldn't say they are unfair on the pre-war but can't see how the two post war didn't go higher.
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So true, my largest variances between what I expected and what I got were post-1950...

[benge610]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

SGC is definitely tougher than PSA on grading, both pre-war & post-war. Recent returns form SGC, I wouldn't say they are unfair on the pre-war but can't see how the two post war didn't go higher.
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Wow, Phil.
Those '65 Topps are beauts.
Hair Splitting time.

Ben

[V117collector]

I thought it would grade higher, but I'm still happy with it!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by V117collector

I thought it would grade higher, but I'm still happy with it!

Agreed, Mickey looks great in the tuxedo!

[V117collector]

Hey, thanks, Joe! Here's the back, just as clean as the front. I'm really thinking about keeping this one in my collection, but if the price is right, well you know!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by V117collector

Hey, thanks, Joe! Here's the back, just as clean as the front. I'm really thinking about keeping this one in my collection, but if the price is right, well you know!

I believe your card is a good example of "grade creep" that is, the scale is sliding on vintage products. Possibly a result of all the sharp edged chrome cards of today (hyper modern) making flaws on older cards stand out more in comparison and thus the cards produced in the days of low tech are getting penalized more by all the new graders.

Looks to me like an easy 4 or 4.5 10 years ago.

[Bigdaddy]

Received these earlier this week:

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Dead-Ball-Hitter

Any folks here interested in sharing your returned graded card submissions, particularly from SGC? If so, show us what you got! I know many here view SGC & PSA as the most respected TPGs, cost and grading delays notwithstanding.

Recently, I sent in a large number of cards of various age and condition; a couple were really rough, and I expected grades of “1” but just wanted them slabbed. Others were newer and nicer. The content crossed several sports. Was interested to see if they still grade in a manner consistent with the past two decades, given that I have not sent in an order since the start of the pandemic. For many years, I’ve sent in cards of all types to be graded and gotten very used to the standards. In short, I’d have to agree with what many have been stating: grading has become slightly more strict. It seems less about eye appeal and more about technicalities, which is fine, as long as there is consistency.

Here are a dozen images from my order being returned. Given that SGC now scans all items (hi-rez, no additional charge), I have a clear picture of each item. Overall, love SGC’s service and holder, but have to agree they are tougher than ever… what does a dude need to do to get a 1.5 LOL! The service was fast and I’m still a satisfied customer, though I’d love a lower cost bulk submission level and a set registry!

Feel free to share your ‘returns’ here.

Note:
20-25 day service @ $30 each
Submitted online order & shipped: 2/9/22
Delivered to SGC by USPS: 2/14/22
Received by SGC: 2/15/22
Grades Popped: 3/1/22
Shipped back: 3/2/22

Nice cards.


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[rats60]

T206 Plank

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by rats60

T206 Plank

Beauty

[ClementeFanOh]

Thank you all, for the great looks! Trent King

[pcoz]

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[boneheadandrube]

Hard to Follow those Ruths
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[hcv123]

Originally Posted by pcoz

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Jaw dropping incredible!! Thanks for sharing.

[realbigfatdog]

Grades popped for my most recent sub yesterday. I was pleased that they graded my E92 blank back (after I heard that they dont grade them any longer) as well as my S74-1 silk, which was a second try with this one (originally SGC deemed it too fragile, as the paper backing had peeled about halfway off. This time, I placed a post-it note on the card saver that said "AUTHENTIC OK", and surprisingly it worked!) They were tough on the rest of the group, as my Cobb and Matty both came back with lower grades than they were, originally (I had cracked them for a binder set that I gave up on). The Chase one ear is a head scratcher for me. Not sure why it got an A? 1911_Piedmont_Cigarettes_T205_T205_Hal_Chase_Only_Left_Ear_Shows__SGC-Grade-A_Auth-4727072_Front.jpg1911_Piedmont_Cigarettes_T205_T205_Hal_Chase_Only_Left_Ear_Shows__SGC-Grade-A_Auth-4727072_Back.jpg1911_Hassan_Cigarettes_T205_Hal_Chase_Both_Ears_Show_Frame_Ends__SGC-Grade-1_Auth-7143622_Front.jpg1911_Hassan_Cigarettes_T205_Hal_Chase_Both_Ears_Show_Frame_Ends__SGC-Grade-1_Auth-7143622_Back.jpg1911_Honest_Long_Cut_Tobacco_T205_T205_Hal_Chase_Both_Ears_Show_Frame_Extends__SGC-Grade-2pt5_Au.jpgAttachment 11909_S74_Silks_-_White_S74-1_Hal_Chase_Old_Mill_Cigarettes__SGC-Grade-A_Auth-1087566_Back.jpg

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[D. Bergin]

These are about what I expected. Dimaggio, sharp looking but obviously trimmed. The Williams marked as "Authentic - Altered"

Not sure what's "Altered" about it, but it's got a gouge on the left border, so I wasn't expecting any more then a "1" on it anyways. Maybe it was pressed at one point.

[Harliduck]

I just submitted 6 more cards, and received 3 back couple weeks ago.

First was this 1954 Bowman Mickey...was popped from a PSA 2 MC...SGC hammered it say "Evidence of Trimming"? I really don't care as it presents well for a MC card, but I really don't agree with trimming, and neither did PSA -










Also was hoping for a 4 here, and it came back 3.5. No creases, corners not bad...hammered for the OC.






Lastly I was super pumped for this one...I have never subbed a new shiney card and frankly don't collect much new stuff. Being in Seattle and a die hard Mariners fan (suffering I know) I am setting to get a slabbed card of each of the new 2022 roster players. I picked this card out of many hoping to get a 10...and I did, first ever try. Beginners luck...

[Johnny630]

Mickey Bowman Time

[D. Bergin]

Damn, that's a spectacular 53 Bowman Mantle. Can't decide if the 53 Topps Mantle or the 53 Bowman Mantle is my favorite Mantle card of All-time.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Mickey Bowman Time

Incredible!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

Lastly I was super pumped for this one...I have never subbed a new shiney card and frankly don't collect much new stuff. Being in Seattle and a die hard Mariners fan (suffering I know) I am setting to get a slabbed card of each of the new 2022 roster players. I picked this card out of many hoping to get a 10...and I did, first ever try. Beginners luck...

Great card, John! I think Logan Gilbert has a bright future. I hope you were able to pick up some J-Rod cards before they start skyrocketing

[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Great card, John! I think Logan Gilbert has a bright future. I hope you were able to pick up some J-Rod cards before they start skyrocketing

Thanks! I did... I haven't been shy about gobbling up as many as I can...we got some kids with lots of potential! (I've drunk on the kool-aid, haha)

[Yoda]

I have to wonder if the batch of new graders have been 'overtrained' and how much hands-on supervision they receive at the workplace?
When SGC first started out in the mid '90s, I doubt centering was even one of their grading criteria. They were notorious for giving juicy grades to cards way o/c.

[Lucas00]

My newest returns for my red collection.

[fkm_bky]

Just back from Grading at SGC. Only took 2 weeks from the time they received them! That said, I'm disappointed in the Chesbro grade, and I re-sent the Collins back to have them holder for Authentic b/c they refused to grade it last time...now it comes back in a 1. No consistency really...even if it comes out in my favor. Not happy they stole my $30.00.

Bill

[3-2-count]

Hi Bill. Nice cards! Just my opinion of course, but all of those grades given by Sgc look pretty accurate to me.

And who says they got the Collins right the first time you'd sent it in. I've seen many 1's in both Psa and Sgc slabs that display like that Collins.

Those are my thoughts at first glance.

[fkm_bky]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Hi Bill. Nice cards! Just my opinion of course, but all of those grades given by Sgc look pretty accurate to me.

And who says they got the Collins right the first time you'd sent it in. I've seen many 1's in both Psa and Sgc slabs that display like that Collins.

Those are my thoughts at first glance.

Thanks Tony! I'm not broke up about the Chesbro as given today's standards is probably in line...hoped for better. I wish with the Collins they would have just graded it the first time I sent it in and not gave it back to me unholdered.

BTW, looked at your Portrait collection and my jaw dropped. What a great array of cards, just beautiful! Slowly I hope to upgrade mine as things go along.

Bill

[3-2-count]

Thanks Bill, much appreciated!

At times I feel collectors like us could probably grade more consistent than any of these third party dudes.

[justrun7]

I had a small 2 card that was received on March 15th and graded March 30th. I knew they wouldn't grade high but am happy with the quick turnaround as I just wanted them slabbed.

[Snowman]

Here are a couple of my recently acquired tuxedos.

[Directly]

Most buyers believe SGC graded cards sell nearly half price versus PSA. As both a collector an seller, I'm still not brain washed, although many buyers are.

IMO those cards for your collections in SGC holders are beautiful!

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Here are a couple of my recently acquired tuxedos.

Knowing the 1961 set well, that is the nicest 2.5 Elgin RC you could ever wish for. I suspect the back has that gum stain or residue that is very difficult to remove!

Sweet card! Wow~

Peace, Mike

[Natswin2019]

Submitted these through my LCS in the second week of February. Got these back on the 31st of March. So about 6ish weeks or so at the basic 30$ submission.

Pretty happy with all of the grades that I received back and with the time frame. Have another 10 card submission ready to submit next week!

[Snowman]

Was hoping for an A+, but at least these won't hurt my GPA.

[fkm_bky]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Was hoping for an A+, but at least these won't hurt my GPA.

Stunning!

Bill