Net54baseball Contest- Immediate answer required

[Leon]

So let's give this a try again. First to answer correctly in this thread wins a Net54baseball T shirt. I will be the final say on this contest, as to the winner, but the first one to answer correctly wins.

We all love our National Chicle sports and non sport cards but what what year and what company was National Chicle Co. formed from?

This is NOT American Chicle and it is not the National Chicle Products company. What I am looking for will be pre 1940. If there is any dispute I will pick the closest answer to win, but I think I have the definitive answer. If not, well, it's fun to talk about and the closest guess will get the T shirt. Good luck!!

[sports-rings]

1899

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

1899

The reason I was a little ambiguous in how a winner will be chosen is because I saw a few different things when looking this info up. I am not going to say if the year answered is correct or not, but even if it is, it is only half the answer. And if we find out my info isn't correct then this answer if correct, could win. But regardless, the document I have seen shows some more info....

[darwinbulldog]

Shelby Gum Company? 1933?

[btcarfagno]

Griffith & Co. 1910.

Tom C

[Bigb13]

1905

[Jeffrompa]

Don't know but I am curious . I know people tried to make tires from Chicle in the late 1800's and failed .

[CTDean]

The World Wide Gum Co.

[CTDean]

The World Wide Gum Company was owned by Goudey

[btcarfagno]

Tom C

[btcarfagno]

Griffith & Co became known as National Chicle in 1910.

Tom C

[celoknob]

Griffith and co. 1899

[bnorth]

Griffith and Co. 1901. I was going to guess 1899 but was already taken.

Louis Chaldecott the secretory and treasurer committed suicide in March 22nd of 1907 and it was already known as National Chicle Co. then.

[slipk1068]

nevermind

[ullmandds]

griffith and co...1903

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Tom C

These items date to April 1906 and National Chicle was still under the Griffith banner.

Tom C

[btcarfagno]

Per the national Corporation Reporter Volume 39, the name was changed from Griffith & Co to National Chicle Gum Company in 1910. That said, I am not sure if that answers Leon's original question or not, as I do not know if a name change is what he was looking for.

Tom C

[ullmandds]

griffith and co...1910!!!!!!

DId I win...Did I win???

[Leon]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Per the national Corporation Reporter Volume 39, the name was changed from Griffith & Co to National Chicle Gum Company in 1910. That said, I am not sure if that answers Leon's original question or not, as I do not know if a name change is what he was looking for.

Tom C

I am in the very middle of taking in a big consignment .....gentleman will leave in a bit. You guys are onto something but I am not positive anyone has both correct answers yet. I am not sure....will check in just a little while.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by Leon

I am in the very middle of taking in a big consignment .....gentleman will leave in a bit. You guys are onto something but I am not positive anyone has both correct answers yet. I am not sure....will check in just a little while.

Gah!

Consignment shunsignment!

We want answers man! And winnings! Distributions of winnings! Like a pin or a firm and hearty handshake or some other such great and wonderful prize.

Tom C

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

griffith and co...1910!!!!!!

DId I win...Did I win???

I believe that this post qualifies as a Molina (post too slow). See #5 in this thread.



Tom C

[kmac32]

1934 the Goudy Gum Company

[Leon]

OK, have only a moment at the moment. I don't see the correct answer above yet. At the end, if no one gets what I am looking for, I will show what I have and declare a winner. It wasn't 1934.

[bnorth]

Griffith and Co 1902

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I believe that this post qualifies as a Molina (post too slow). See #5 in this thread.



Tom C

hahahahahhaha!!

[LKeeler]

I will try Griffith and Co changed to National Chicle in 1909? August 8th if I remember correctly.

[Leon]

I will give the answer later this evening. You guys are really, really close. But from what I will show I think we will have an almost definitive agreement. And then, if no one is exactly correct, I will decide (as fair as possible) who is closest. Good luck and thanks for playing so far!!

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Griffith & Co. 1900

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Griffith & Co. 1900

Not quite, and remember, to win both answers have to be given and acknowledged.

To clarify a bit, as to when National Chicle was formed, what I am looking for specifically is when it started being called National Chicle Co. The more specific the better.

sorry for any confusion I caused.

thanks again to all who have guessed so far!!

[bnorth]

Griffith and Co. started National Chicle Company Aug. 21 1903 Statement filed and license issued, final certificate issued Nov 3 1903

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Griffith and Co. started National Chicle Company Aug. 21 1903 Statement filed and license issued, final certificate issued Nov 3 1903

This could be the answer. The question though, is when did they start being called National Chicle Co.? If you can verify your information you should probably be the winner, Ben. I am leaving a tiny bit of wiggle room on purpose.

[bnorth]

Here is a link to what I found. https://books.google.com/books?id=wo...ompany&f=false

It is about the 20-25th business listed down from the top.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Here is a link to what I found. https://books.google.com/books?id=wo...ompany&f=false

It is about the 20-25th business listed down from the top.

ok pm me your size and shipping addy...I think this is what is left.....

Gray- (2) 3XL
Green- (4) XL (4) 2XL
Blue- (1) large (3) XL (1) 2XL

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Leon

ok pm me your size and shipping addy...I think this is what is left.....

Gray- (2) 3XL
Green- (4) XL (4) 2XL
Blue- (1) large (3) XL (1) 2XL

Awesome thank you Leon!

[celoknob]

What about this? Says it formed in 1899.

https://books.google.com/books?id=mL...cle%22&f=false

[Leon]

Originally Posted by celoknob

What about this? Says it formed in 1899.

https://books.google.com/books?id=mL...cle%22&f=false

I am going with the 1903 formation. I knew there could be some ambiguity and that is why I made these rules the way I did. We will do another, guess the price contest, in a few days.
and T shirt award will go to Pete also, as he guessed 1903 and Griffith too........Pete.....LMK

[btcarfagno]

The google doc that I saw was that the name change from Griffith & Co to National Chicle Gum Company happened in 1910 officially. That would be when they started to be called National Chicle. No? Instead of National Chicle being a subsidiary of Griffith as it was in these 1906 papers?

Damn shirt giveaways. Gah!

Tom C