grade in description

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Posted By: dan mckee

Read the description, then look at the back scan. Did he scan the wrong card maybe?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-Cracker-Jack-FRANK-SMITH-Baltimore-FEDERALS_W0QQitemZ350148983560QQihZ022QQcategoryZ8 6841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: D. Bergin

Well, he did say paper loss from scrapbook removal and had a clear scan even if he did grossly oversell the technical grade.

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Posted By: dan mckee

The one statement says no major paperloss, I am wondering if he has the wrong card up to match his description?

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Posted By: D. Bergin

I think it's just one of those cases when you own the card it seems like tiny paperloss on the back. When you go to buy it, it's huge paper loss.

Based on the Non-Sport silk lot I think he just gets carried away with the grades. Luckily the scans are decent.

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Posted By: JimB

He did say "ex/mt (in my opinion)". So his opinion is off by about five grades. What is wrong with that?
Jimb

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Posted By: Bill Todd

Not to stray too far off the point, but look at how Smith is holding the ball. I've never been a pitcher, so I can't say with any authority, but that looks like it would be awfully hard to control.

Bill

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Posted By: dan mckee

Great observation Bill! There was a kid in little league I played against that held the ball like that, his name was Weston and I only remember him because of the weird way he pitched. Dan.

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Posted By: Steve

The pitch that Smith was throwing is called a palm ball.



It is thrown over the top and will start high and end low.



It is a pretty hard pitch to master.



If you break your wrist at the point of release it will fade away from

right handed batters and into left handed ones. It is most commonly used as a changeup.





Steve


edited to add: Satchel Paige threw one as did Jim Palmer among others.

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Posted By: David Goff

Some pitchers throw change-ups that way. I think Greg Maddux threw his circle change to some degree.

edited...sorry Steve, I guess I was typing when you posted.