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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Read the description, then look at the back scan. Did he scan the wrong card maybe?<br><br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-Cracker-Jack-FRANK-SMITH-Baltimore-FEDERALS_W0QQitemZ350148983560QQihZ022QQcategoryZ8 6841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-Cracker-Jack-FRANK-SMITH-Baltimore-FEDERALS_W0QQitemZ350148983560QQihZ022QQcategoryZ8 6841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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Posted By: <b>D. Bergin</b><p>Well, he did say paper loss from scrapbook removal and had a clear scan even if he did grossly oversell the technical grade.<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>The one statement says no major paperloss, I am wondering if he has the wrong card up to match his description?

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Posted By: <b>D. Bergin</b><p>I think it's just one of those cases when you own the card it seems like tiny paperloss on the back. When you go to buy it, it's huge paper loss.<br><br>Based on the Non-Sport silk lot I think he just gets carried away with the grades. Luckily the scans are decent.<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>He did say &quot;ex/mt (in my opinion)&quot;. So his opinion is off by about five grades. What is wrong with that? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="wink.gif"><br>Jimb

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Posted By: <b>Bill Todd</b><p>Not to stray too far off the point, but look at how Smith is holding the ball. I've never been a pitcher, so I can't say with any authority, but that looks like it would be awfully hard to control.<br><br>Bill

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Great observation Bill! There was a kid in little league I played against that held the ball like that, his name was Weston and I only remember him because of the weird way he pitched. Dan.<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>The pitch that Smith was throwing is called a palm ball.<br><br><br><br>It is thrown over the top and will start high and end low.<br><br><br><br>It is a pretty hard pitch to master.<br><br><br><br>If you break your wrist at the point of release it will fade away from<br><br>right handed batters and into left handed ones. It is most commonly used as a changeup.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Steve<br><br><br> edited to add: Satchel Paige threw one as did Jim Palmer among others.<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>David Goff</b><p>Some pitchers throw change-ups that way. I think Greg Maddux threw his circle change to some degree. <br><br>edited...sorry Steve, I guess I was typing when you posted.