PSA T206 Magie error - legit?

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Is this legit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5208435629&rd=1

I see a lot of grey spots around the border... so maybe this was a "WIWAG" special??

Opinions?

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Posted By: Robert

The card and casing seem to be real but the seller on the other hand is a different story...I don't belive that this seller is the actual owner of this card and highkacked the image from somewhare else to make a quick $1500.00

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Posted By: tbob

Kind of makes you scratch your head- one sale on ebay in the last 2 years, no vintage or even modern card sales judging from the feedback, and he comes up with the 4th rarest T206?

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Posted By: Damian

of the letters on the label look thinner than my PSA labels, but maybe its the scan. Also isn't $2100 for B.I.N way cheap for this card?

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Posted By: DJ

The price scares the HELL out of me.

Why hasn't anyone BIN'd a tough card at pretty much 30-40% of what it's really worth?

I would honestly (showing my ignorance) have probably BIN'd it if the price was $4K, not half that and would probably show it off in a future VBC edition of 'new purchases' with pride.

For now, I'll stay away and remain in my safety zone.

DJ

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Posted By: dan mckee

Card is real, seller is very suspect.

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Posted By: gary

real or not , the case looks cracked open at the bottom...

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Posted By: dan mckee

I disagree, case looks sealed to me.

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Posted By: John

Card is real, case looks ok too me. I also think the BIN and starting price is about right and not under priced. If you were going to spend 4k I would buy a card like this over this PSA 1. As far as the seller I have no idea.

http://search.sothebys.com/jsps/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=4FRHT

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Posted By: Paul

A question from a "Magie" novice (me): The type at the bottom looks proportionally spaced. In other words, an "I" takes up less space than an "E." If I tried to alter a "MAGEE" to make it into a "MAGIE", I think there would be a lot of extra white space around the "I". I don't see the extra white spacing on this card.

Is this a simple way to detect an altered Magie? Or am I missing something? (And yes, I know one of the main issues with this particular card is whether the seller actually owns it).

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Posted By: Steve

Case looks very frosted in some areas, especially at 3:00 I would venture that this is a reprint in a PSA case with a fake cert?

btw Im sorta new to the boards, HELLO

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Posted By: DJ

I think the card looks fine and I have no problem with the authenticity of it. In this world of collecting skepticism, it seems like you place any card (graded or ungraded) in this Forum, there will be mixed opinions.

Trimmed. Authentic. Over and/or Under-Graded.

I still think it's low on what it should sell for. The multiplier has it at $3,600 and I remember seeing a hammered copy (a little less of a grade than this) sell to a collecting colleague for $3,750 at the National last year.

Does anyone else think $2,100 is low?

In a collecting age where a PSA9 T206 will garner $800+, there is no interest as of yet to pull the trigger on this difficult issue.


DJ

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Posted By: barry arnold

I'm with tbob; the evidence looks suspect.
it's a shame, 'cause the card is mighty enticing.

all the best

barry arnold

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Posted By: scott ingold

Some will remember i sold a gai Magie graded poor about 6 months ago on ebay. If memory serve's it went for 2200.00
and was not as nice as this one in the PSA case. To refresh
it had a damaged bottom area just below the name which caused some ?'s.

If the seller was someone anybody knew or i could escrow i would jump all over this one. Has anyone emailed the seller about escrow ? JMO, but i think a fair bin would be in the 3k range.

scott

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Posted By: Robert

Hal,

Do you live in Florida? Why don't you contact the buyer and find out where he lives in Fl and try to seeit in person. I have had people come to verify high end cards that I sold before on EBAY.

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Posted By: Jay Miller

Interestingly enough the last feedback for the seller has him living in PA.

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Posted By: tbob

The seller said the card belonged to a descendant of the one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and was found in his safe deposit box.

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Posted By: DJ

Phew! I was worried there for a second about the legitimacy of the whole thing.

Now isn't this the definition of a 'find'? Move over 'Mr. X'!

DJ

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Posted By: warshawlaw

He'd have been around 175 but what the heck, as long as we are inventing provenance....My card has been signed by my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked. Yeah, that's the ticket....