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Old 01-19-2025, 10:08 AM
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So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild. Who holds the record?? Is it him?
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Connie Mack?

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Wow...the only other name that comes to mind is Mack, but I don't know for sure.
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Wow...the only other name that comes to mind is Mack, but I don't know for sure.
Connie Mack was a major league player 1886-1896 (and sometimes a playing manager). He manage the Athletics for fifty years starting in 1901, so his major league career lasted 61 years. (He managed Milwaukee, a minor league team, 1897-1900.) Mack never wore a uniform as a non-playing manager.

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Connie Mack was a major league player 1886-1896 (and sometimes a playing manager). He manage the Athletics for fifty years starting in 1901, so his major league career lasted 61 years. (He managed Milwaukee, a minor league team, 1897-1900.) Mack never wore a uniform as a non-playing manager.
Only 61? What a slacker
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If you include scouting Johnny Pesky and Charlie Wagner are both way up there.
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I was thinking Connie Mack, but there could be a scout with more, but that would have been one long career.
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Was Red really still suiting up for games those last couple of decades? If so that's amazing.
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If you include coaching roles, Don Zimmer must be pretty high on the list.
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Zimmer had like 65 years including minor league stints here and there along the way.

You can probably tack on a few more years to Red's record, if you count minor league service.
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Why does baseball use the term "service"? It doesn't seem like the right concept to me. Never understood that.
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Red must also hold the record for total service time with a single team, at 67 years with the Cardinals organization.
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Red must also hold the record for total service time with a single team, at 67 years with the Cardinals organization.
If scouting time counts, Charlie Wagner had 73 years as a player, coach, and scout- all with the Red Sox.
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Did we mention Tommy Giordano yet? 71 years.
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If you include minor leagues, Jimmy Reese must be up there as well. But I think Red has the record.
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Nigero league major league player, 1st black coach in MLB, scout, and service to baseball hall of famer veterans committee, plus much more:

Buck Oneil 1934-2006 was a nice run for a nice guy.
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So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild.
I'd hope that 74 years on the job got him a pretty good pension.

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Honorable mention, Vin Scully for 67 years as the Dodgers announcer.
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Casey Stengel should be considered as well. Every thread needs a card.

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So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild. Who holds the record?? Is it him?
According to Google, it's Red Schoendienst.
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My Obligatory post of Red. I enjoy seeing him come up for obvious reasons.

His longevity in the major leagues being quite literally longer than many people live, is one reason I collect him as my PC.

Like many have said about scouting, not sure if it counts but Reds 2 years in the minors for the cardinals would make it 76 years.
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Honorable mention, Vin Scully for 67 years as the Dodgers announcer.
Another honorable mention, Shirley Povich wrote baseball for the Washington Post for 75 years.
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Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years.

From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.”

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Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years. From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.” https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/96624988
Speaking of Washington, Nick Altrock logs in at 60+ years as ML player and coach.
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Frank Robinson began in the Minors in 1953. Depending on how you define his roles, he retired in 2015. So roughly 62 years. (I'm not aware of any breaks between those years, though it is possible there was a gap somewhere)
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All them old saps...

Mack, Wheat, Reese, Stengle, Zimmer, Pesky, Red....probably all mentioned here already.

I wonder what CURRENT rube will still be around 30 years from now.

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Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years.



From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.”



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Love Clark Griffith!
Me too! These cards of "The Old Fox" span his long career in baseball, from a player beginning at age 18 in 1888, to a team manager, to a team owner when he passed at age 85 in 1955.
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