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luciobar1980 01-19-2025 10:08 AM

Who has the longest career in major leagues, including playing and managing??
 
So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild. Who holds the record?? Is it him?

pwang100 01-19-2025 10:09 AM

Connie Mack?

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conor912 01-19-2025 10:10 AM

Wow...the only other name that comes to mind is Mack, but I don't know for sure.

RUKen 01-19-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2489457)
Wow...the only other name that comes to mind is Mack, but I don't know for sure.

Connie Mack was a major league player 1886-1896 (and sometimes a playing manager). He manage the Athletics for fifty years starting in 1901, so his major league career lasted 61 years. (He managed Milwaukee, a minor league team, 1897-1900.) Mack never wore a uniform as a non-playing manager.

conor912 01-19-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RUKen (Post 2489459)
Connie Mack was a major league player 1886-1896 (and sometimes a playing manager). He manage the Athletics for fifty years starting in 1901, so his major league career lasted 61 years. (He managed Milwaukee, a minor league team, 1897-1900.) Mack never wore a uniform as a non-playing manager.

Only 61? What a slacker :)

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-19-2025 10:36 AM

If you include scouting Johnny Pesky and Charlie Wagner are both way up there.

Fred 01-19-2025 11:04 AM

I was thinking Connie Mack, but there could be a scout with more, but that would have been one long career.

Peter_Spaeth 01-19-2025 11:12 AM

Was Red really still suiting up for games those last couple of decades? If so that's amazing.

carlsonjok 01-19-2025 11:25 AM

If you include coaching roles, Don Zimmer must be pretty high on the list.

D. Bergin 01-19-2025 11:29 AM

Zimmer had like 65 years including minor league stints here and there along the way.

You can probably tack on a few more years to Red's record, if you count minor league service.

Peter_Spaeth 01-19-2025 11:37 AM

Why does baseball use the term "service"? It doesn't seem like the right concept to me. Never understood that.

G1911 01-19-2025 11:44 AM

Red must also hold the record for total service time with a single team, at 67 years with the Cardinals organization.

Musashi 01-19-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2489488)
Red must also hold the record for total service time with a single team, at 67 years with the Cardinals organization.

If scouting time counts, Charlie Wagner had 73 years as a player, coach, and scout- all with the Red Sox.

Peter_Spaeth 01-19-2025 12:15 PM

Did we mention Tommy Giordano yet? 71 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Giordano

paul 01-19-2025 02:02 PM

If you include minor leagues, Jimmy Reese must be up there as well. But I think Red has the record.

nebboy 01-19-2025 03:05 PM

Nigero league major league player, 1st black coach in MLB, scout, and service to baseball hall of famer veterans committee, plus much more:

Buck Oneil 1934-2006 was a nice run for a nice guy.

Balticfox 01-19-2025 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 2489455)
So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild.

I'd hope that 74 years on the job got him a pretty good pension.

;)

GasHouseGang 01-19-2025 03:31 PM

Honorable mention, Vin Scully for 67 years as the Dodgers announcer.

t213 01-19-2025 03:41 PM

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Casey Stengel should be considered as well. Every thread needs a card.

Andy

jingram058 01-19-2025 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 2489455)
So I recently was looking up Red Schoendienst and was amazed to read that:

“At the time of his death, he had worn a Major League uniform for 74 consecutive years as a player, coach, or manager”

74 YEARS!?! That is truly wild. Who holds the record?? Is it him?

According to Google, it's Red Schoendienst.

Lucas00 01-19-2025 07:02 PM

My Obligatory post of Red. I enjoy seeing him come up for obvious reasons.

His longevity in the major leagues being quite literally longer than many people live, is one reason I collect him as my PC.

Like many have said about scouting, not sure if it counts but Reds 2 years in the minors for the cardinals would make it 76 years.
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tiger8mush 01-19-2025 07:40 PM

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Big Red

ALBB 01-19-2025 07:59 PM

long
 
Jimmy Reese

Hankphenom 01-20-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2489565)
Honorable mention, Vin Scully for 67 years as the Dodgers announcer.

Another honorable mention, Shirley Povich wrote baseball for the Washington Post for 75 years.

BRoberts 01-20-2025 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2489622)
Jimmy Reese

Master of the fungo bat!

luciobar1980 01-20-2025 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 2489616)
Big Red

Pretty card ;)

cgjackson222 01-20-2025 12:41 PM

Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years.

From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.”

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/96624988

Hankphenom 01-20-2025 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2489798)
Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years. From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.” https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/96624988

Speaking of Washington, Nick Altrock logs in at 60+ years as ML player and coach.

Topnotchsy 01-20-2025 05:27 PM

Frank Robinson began in the Minors in 1953. Depending on how you define his roles, he retired in 2015. So roughly 62 years. (I'm not aware of any breaks between those years, though it is possible there was a gap somewhere)

7nohitter 01-21-2025 08:19 PM

All them old saps...

Mack, Wheat, Reese, Stengle, Zimmer, Pesky, Red....probably all mentioned here already.

I wonder what CURRENT rube will still be around 30 years from now.

Varitek?

OhioLawyerF5 01-22-2025 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2489798)
Another honorable mention was Clark Griffith at 70 total years.



From his SABR bio: “In terms of duration, as a player, manager, and executive, it was one of the longest ever, spanning nearly 70 years. Griffith is the only man in major league history to serve as player, manager, and owner for at least 20 years each. From his earliest days as a pitcher for money in Hoopeston, Illinois, to his last breath, the Old Fox, as he became fondly known, dedicated his life to baseball.”



https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/96624988

Love Clark Griffith!

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ValKehl 01-22-2025 04:47 PM

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Love Clark Griffith!

Me too! These cards of "The Old Fox" span his long career in baseball, from a player beginning at age 18 in 1888, to a team manager, to a team owner when he passed at age 85 in 1955.


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