NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-06-2024, 07:08 AM
Kutcher55 Kutcher55 is offline
J@son Per1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 809
Default Crossing SGC 9 to PSA 9

Curious for people who have experience doing it. If you have a new label SGC9 and want to cross it (because it’s worth so much more in PSA 9 thanks to the registry nuts for the particular set I’m into) what are your chances of success? I’m also curious has it gotten any easier since PSA bought SGC? Obviously it’s card specific. I will post the card later on but curious for educated opinions first. Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-06-2024, 08:11 AM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,267
Default

No answers without photos.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-06-2024, 09:46 AM
MikeGarcia MikeGarcia is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,955
Default New consensus ?

.Since the merger : Is it now okay to attempt a " crossover " keeping it in the old SGC holder and submitting it that way thus allowing them to see it as is ?

Because now it's just merely asking for a " grade review " and oh by the way a newer label ( and into a PSA flip ). ? Either way they make money .And you may be asked to be prepared to okay the payment of a very slight negligible upcharge ?? Interesting situation you've created for yourself. Please keep us posted. Well just me actually , because no one else in here will comment on this . I know this crowd.Mods may as well just lock it now.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-06-2024, 01:07 PM
Kutcher55 Kutcher55 is offline
J@son Per1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 809
Default

Here they are. Was hoping to get closeups of the corners but my phone loses focus up close. What can I say I'm no Ansel Adams.



Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-06-2024, 01:14 PM
todeen's Avatar
todeen todeen is offline
Tim Odeen
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,295
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kutcher55 View Post
Here they are. Was hoping to get closeups of the corners but my phone loses focus up close. What can I say I'm no Ansel Adams.







Instead of walking closer to your card, or leaning in, stand back farther, and use the zoom feature on your phone. If it's out of focus, touch the area on your screen that you want to focus on. That should then bring the camera into focus.

Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk
__________________
Barry Larkin, Joey Votto, Tris Speaker, 1930-45 Cincinnati Reds, T206 Cincinnati
Successful deals with: Banksfan14, Brianp-beme, Bumpus Jones, Dacubfan (x5), Dstrawberryfan39, Ed_Hutchinson, Fballguy, fusorcruiser (x2), GoCalBears, Gorditadog, Luke, MikeKam, Moosedog, Nineunder71, Powdered H20, PSU, Ronniehatesjazz, Roarfrom34, Sebie43, Seven, and Wondo
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-06-2024, 01:18 PM
raulus raulus is offline
Nicol0 Pin.oli
 
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,650
Default

How much more is it worth in PSA 9 v. SGC 9?

Part of me wonders whether the juice is really worth the squeeze.

Looking at the fuzzy scans, it looks like it might be possible to cross it over. The biggest question is whether you'll have better luck with a classic cross (i.e. sending it in the slab) or whether you're better off cracking it out and submitting it as raw.

When you crack it out, you take a lot more risk. At least with a classic cross, if it won't cross at your minimum specified grade, then they send it back to you in the original slab.

My first inclination would be to not bother with the aggravation. My second inclination if I really, really decided I was going to do it, then I'd go with a classic cross, rather than a crack and resubmit. Probably just my own aversion to risk that way, because if you crack and resubmit, it might come back as a PSA 7. And with a classic cross, your downside is limited to the cost of the service, which hopefully won't be more than you're willing to risk in the venture.

In terms of my own crossover experience, I've really only ever done it once, about 6 years ago with a classic cross in the slab. It started in SGC 6 and came back as PSA 5. And I was fine with that.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0636.jpg (195.9 KB, 123 views)
__________________
Trying to wrap up my master mays set, with just a few left:

1968 American Oil left side
1971 Bazooka numbered complete panel

Last edited by raulus; 10-06-2024 at 01:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-06-2024, 01:30 PM
Beercan collector's Avatar
Beercan collector Beercan collector is offline
Eric
E.ric Bau.mh0er
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Midwest
Posts: 675
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by raulus View Post
How much more is it worth in PSA 9 v. SGC 9?

Part of me wonders whether the juice is really worth the squeeze.

Looking at the fuzzy scans, it looks like it might be possible to cross it over. The biggest question is whether you'll have better luck with a classic cross (i.e. sending it in the slab) or whether you're better off cracking it out and submitting it as raw.

When you crack it out, you take a lot more risk. At least with a classic cross, if it won't cross at your minimum specified grade, then they send it back to you in the original slab.

My first inclination would be to not bother with the aggravation. My second inclination if I really, really decided I was going to do it, then I'd go with a classic cross, rather than a crack and resubmit. Probably just my own aversion to risk that way, because if you crack and resubmit, it might come back as a PSA 7. And with a classic cross, your downside is limited to the cost of the service, which hopefully won't be more than you're willing to risk in the venture.

In terms of my own crossover experience, I've really only ever done it once, about 6 years ago with a classic cross in the slab. It started in SGC 6 and came back as PSA 5. And I was fine with that.
+1 Definitely do not crack it out ,
While the card looks plenty mint to me the tiny speck of white at the tips of the bottom corners could throw off the grade(r)
Hell of a nice rookie Brett - looks good in the SGC holder
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-06-2024, 01:41 PM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,267
Default

Worth trying a crossover with a min grade of 9. Card is gorgeous, but looks a touch off-center to me (45/55 left to right)? Card is properly registered, no notable print snow/defects, clean back.
If it was mine, I'd pay the cost to send it in at the SGC 9 value level to see if it would cross.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-06-2024, 02:21 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,523
Default

Unless it's become a lot easier, and I doubt it, I think centering will prevent it.
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-06-2024, 02:33 PM
GasHouseGang's Avatar
GasHouseGang GasHouseGang is offline
David M.
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: S. California
Posts: 3,006
Default

The difference according to VCP is PSA 9 at $3229 vs SGC 9 at $980. I wouldn't crack it before submitting it if I were you. The few I've ever crossed over were at lower grade levels, so I when I cracked out a card I wasn't as worried about it maintaining the high grade, like I would be with this card.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-06-2024, 03:29 PM
Kutcher55 Kutcher55 is offline
J@son Per1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 809
Default

Thanks. Yes definitely wouldn’t crack it out. But I will probably give it a shot given how much more this particular issue is worth in a PSA slab. I do think that $980 VCP on SGC 9 is much too low but whatever. Thank you for the tip on the photo closeups. That is quite helpful.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-06-2024, 03:59 PM
Eric72's Avatar
Eric72 Eric72 is offline
Eric Perry
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 3,768
Default

It's unlikely to successfully cross to a PSA 9. There's an issue on the front.The left border becomes wider as it gets closer to the bottom. At least, that's what I'm seeing on my screen when using my cursor for comparison. It's also a bit off left-to-right.

There's also the historical difficulty of sending PSA anyone else's holder and getting them to agree with the grade.
__________________
Eric Perry

Currently collecting:
T206 (135/524)
1956 Topps Baseball (195/342)

"You can observe a lot by just watching."
- Yogi Berra
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-06-2024, 06:54 PM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,267
Default

Just hope you get the same guy that graded this one:


65/35 top to bottom on a HOF RC gets a 9?
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Not sure where to post]-Crossing an CSG 8 to PSA? insrman Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 9 08-28-2021 06:30 AM
Crossing CJ 15s GregMitch34 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 20 11-22-2015 06:32 PM
Crossing over from SGC to PSA... ajjohnsonsoxfan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 15 06-24-2014 12:55 PM
If you were crossing over Pup6913 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 08-07-2009 11:15 AM
Anybody had luck crossing from SGC to PSA? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 01-09-2007 10:18 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:50 AM.


ebay GSB