Post war type rarities 1947-73 less than 50 known of all player

[sflayank]

1961 gold mine bucks 1 known
1959 esslinger beer. 1 known
1961 leader cleaners. 4 known?
1961 Venezuelan tatoos
1961 Harmony milk?
1961 dice

Schumacher service station
1955 topps stamps

[bobsbbcards]

1970 Topps Cloth
1960 Leaf Large Portraits?

[sflayank]

Bob...56 large portraits in pop
Close but no cigar...lol

[raulus]

58 Hires Root Beer Test Set With Tabs?
64 Meadowgold?
66 Topps Punch Outs?
69 Globe Imports checkerboard back?

It’s tough to get under pop 50 for an entire set. If you expanded it to 100ish, you would probably pick up a few more.

[bobsbbcards]

Ah, I misinterpreteded the rules. I thought it was 50 or less of every single player in the set (could be 49 of each player). I stupid.

[ALR-bishop]

Topps 1971 Rookie Artist Proofs. Example below....not mine

Don’t be so hard on yourself Bob. You will do better in the future

[steve B]

I'm not sure these count,
76 Hostess yellow and green

I got them from a friend of a friend, maybe 20-30 cards total. No extras.



The 79 Topps mail in cards, not intended to have pro players, just peoples kids. But some did get made. Unknown checklist, and I forget how many you got in the batch, so probably over 50 total.

[steve B]

And I missed the 73 cutoff....Hey, I'm a catcher, I always miss the cutoff.

[ALR-bishop]

I have a Hobson. Been trying to find a Remy


Correction...I did apparently pick up a Remy at some point

[raulus]

Originally Posted by bobsbbcards

Ah, I misinterpreteded the rules. I thought it was 50 or less of every single player in the set (could be 49 of each player). I stupid.

It’s definitely a crazy low cutoff.

About the only way to get there is to have BOTH a very short checklist AND only a few cards for each player. Obviously not many postwar sets meet those conditions. And when they do, it’s usually because it wasn’t ever released to the public.

[hcv123]

1952 Cocoa Cola Playing tips test
1952 Dixie lid premiums
1971 Bazooka numbered panels
1959,1960, 1961 Bazooka complete box
1968 Topps discs

Some of the earliest team picture packs

[Lucas00]

1946-1947 Sensacion Premiums.

I know several single player collectors who've been waiting for a Musial/Williams to pop up for years.


Also 1959 dads cookies probably meets the requirements.

[Cliff Bowman]

Are any of these graded by PSA?

[Cliff Bowman]

What about 1966 and 1967 Pro's Pizza box lids? I looked up 1967 and it said 31 total have been graded but I don't know how accurate that is.

[sflayank]

Cliff
I might need some of those hirsch
R u selling?

[sflayank]

No on dads cookies...64 cards in a set
So there are a few hundred out there

[DaveW]

how about the 1969 Rawlings promo cards? Only 5 known players with only 1 or 2 of each.

[sflayank]

Rawlings...thats a good one
Selling?

[JLange]

How about the 1947 Bond Bread dual sided perforated card set. Psa says they have graded 28.

[whiteymet]

Depending on how you "define" the set. The 1967 Dexter Press Angels Paul Schaal is one. Only a handful known.

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...auction/120674

If you include as part of the large 1967 Coke set (which the SCD Guide does not) it doesn't fit the criteria.

if you count it as the only Angel issued in 1967, like the other 12 player team regional sets ( excluding the Cardinals) it fits the criteria.

[paul]

I hope you folks are right about the Schumacher Service Station cards. I actually have one.

One that doesn't quite make the cut age-wise is the 1982 Korean set issued by Lotta potato chips. I have the Seaver and I've never seen another from the set.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by paul

I hope you folks are right about the Schumacher Service Station cards. I actually have one.

One that doesn't quite make the cut age-wise is the 1982 Korean set issued by Lotta potato chips. I have the Seaver and I've never seen another from the set.

They are hens teeth rare, and that's being generous. Who do you have? I assume it's Munger or Stephens. If it's Schoendienst we need to talk.

[bcbgcbrcb]

1946 Sears postcards St. Louis Cardinals? Maybe Browns too?

[GeoPoto]

1950(s) Mascot Dog Food

Stanley R. "Bucky" Harris. Second baseman for the Washington Senators in 1919-1928. 1,297 hits and 167 stolen bases in 12 MLB seasons. 1924 and 1947 World Series champion. In 1975, inducted to the MLB Hall of Fame. Named player-manager of the Washington Senators in 1924 at age 27. "The Boy Wonder" led Washington to World Series victory as "rookie" manger. Managed Washington Senators in 1924-1928, 1935-1942, and 1950-1954. Managed the Detroit Tigers in 1929-1933 and 1955-1956. Managed the Boston Red Sox in 1934. Managed the Philadelphia Phillies in 1943. Managed the New York Yankees in 1947-1948, including winning the 1947 World Series. Served as the General Manager of the Boston Red Sox in 1959-1960.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1671188403
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1671188406

[Exhibitman]

1964 Penafiel (Mexico). Soda maker. There are local players, ATGs and LA Dodgers. Here's Gehrig:



Coney island arcade Gehrig. Made by the arcade to use in International Mutoscope Reel Co card machines after IMR bit it. Ca. 1950s-1960s. I've seen two Gehrigs ever, and one Jim Thorpe



1968 Atlantic Oil winner cards. There were ten players with varying degrees of rarity. Clause Osteen ($1 winner) is the easiest--gotta be at least three of them around. Probably Wilson too. since he is also a $1 winner. I've never even seen 6 of the 10 winner cards but I've only been looking for thirty years. Here are two of them, Tommy Davis and Earl Wilson.




I would not be surprised if Davis has no other examples: he is a $100 winner.

There is also an error card that has proven incredibly elusive: Ron Swoboda with the $5 prize. He was supposed to be a common card towards a $10 prize but a handful of the cards were printed with $5 on them. Seen under five of these. Of course, it is so obscure that no one cares...

These Rodine postcards and premiums from a division of a chemical company are rare as hens' teeth too; I've seen only a handful of them:

These are PCs



This is one of the premiums mentioned on the PCs as available on request. I've seen two examples of this one



I don't even know what the other cards in the set are.

[71buc]

The 1971 Pirates Action Photos are tough. I think the paper stock being so fragile is a contributing factor. All I know is that I’ve been collecting for a long time and can attest to their scarcity. There are 16 players in the set according to PSA. I came across a checklist and discovered there are actually 24 players in the set. I currently have 15 of the players. This is the Clemente. If anyone has some they are willing to part with I’d love to hear from you!

[paul]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

They are hens teeth rare, and that's being generous. Who do you have? I assume it's Munger or Stephens. If it's Schoendienst we need to talk.

Yes, my Schumacher is a Vern Stephens. It sounds like he and Munger are the most common, is that right?

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by paul

Yes, my Schumacher is a Vern Stephens. It sounds like he and Munger are the most common, is that right?

They are to my knowledge the only 2 players ever found from the set. I think 2 or 3 of each of them.

[cubman1941]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Are any of these graded by PSA?

Cliff, great ones - especially the one of Sauer (my guy). Who was the SS (back shown)? I gather it was Smalley?
Also are you familiar with the 51 WBKB "Lucky Fan" ones? I just picked up the Sauer from it.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by cubman1941

Cliff, great ones - especially the one of Sauer (my guy). Who was the SS (back shown)? I gather it was Smalley?
Also are you familiar with the 51 WBKB "Lucky Fan" ones? I just picked up the Sauer from it.

Yes, that is the back of the Smalley. I was aware of the 1951 Cubs Lucky Fan photos but I never owned one, a couple of years ago a seller put a bunch on eBay at a pretty high price so I didn't get any although I would have jumped on the Chuck Connors if it wasn't already sold. The ones on eBay right now are very reasonably priced, I bought the Roy Smalley just to have at least one.

[jbaskin]

Both of these are low pop, though you can find them around. The difficulty with the Irvindale set is when they get cut apart. They come in two pairs of two, four total cards. Like Bazooka, the border needs to be there so making singles invalidates one of the cards from being gradeable.

For the Ashland set, since it was a contest, some cards are impossible to find. One is truly one of one (Mahoney, grand prize, none graded), and another is very rare (Mazeroski, 2nd prize?, none graded).

http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2009/09...nd_12.html?m=1

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jbaskin

For the Ashland set, since it was a contest, some cards are impossible to find. One is truly one of one (Mahoney, grand prize, none graded), and another is very rare (Mazeroski, 2nd prize?, none graded).

http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2009/09...nd_12.html?m=1

I still need Ron Santo . One came up a couple of years ago for $250 and like an idiot I didn't buy it immediately.

[ValKehl]

1948 PC797 Gunther Beer postcards. I have only this one. Anyone have any others to show (and to excite Larry S.)?

[mrmopar]

I have a Don Sutton and possible one other that I could be forgetting.

Originally Posted by steve B

The 79 Topps mail in cards, not intended to have pro players, just peoples kids. But some did get made. Unknown checklist, and I forget how many you got in the batch, so probably over 50 total.

[JollyElm]

I'm wondering if this 1963 Nassau County Boy Scouts of America Duke Snider (on my Mets) falls into this rarities category?

1963NassauCountyBoyscoutsBSASnider.jpg

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I'm wondering if this 1963 Nassau County Boy Scouts of America Duke Snider (on my Mets) falls into this rarities category?

Attachment 548420

Yes and probably the 1969 NY BSA set too.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I'm wondering if this 1963 Nassau County Boy Scouts of America Duke Snider (on my Mets) falls into this rarities category?

Attachment 548420

Speaking of boy scout releases. I forget who but I remember seeing a member with some signed Cardinals photos he got from being a boy scout in st louis and inviting others to join as prize incentives. They are Early '60s (Reds is his '61 team issue photo)
They are super cool.

I have looked extensively and can't even find references of them online. Definitely fit this threads prerequisites.

Would love to own one someday.

[JollyElm]

I checked the PSA pop report of the 1963 Nassau County BSA Snider, and there are only 12 total there, with, interestingly enough, the highest grade only being a 5. Wonder how many SGC has graded.

[quitcrab]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I'm wondering if this 1963 Nassau County Boy Scouts of America Duke Snider (on my Mets) falls into this rarities category?

Attachment 548420

Only 5 Nassau Boy Scout cards graded by SGC and the highest grade was a 5.

[mikecala98]

I live in Nassau County and have never seen these.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by quitcrab

Only 5 Nassau Boy Scout cards graded by SGC and the highest grade was a 5.

Does anyone know anything about these cards? With 5s being the top grade, you have to wonder how they were distributed, as clearly no one seems to have a high grade version.

[mrmopar]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

I have a Don Sutton and possible one other that I could be forgetting.

Here is the Sutton.

[mrmopar]

I think these Jerry Jonas cards are pretty scarce, it seems.

https://1978theyearitallbegan.blogsp...=1637886688303

I speculate, based on some research and a phone conversation with Jonas himself, that less than 50 sets may have been printed. You never know though...maybe extras were made at the time and given away to friends or employees. I wish Jerry had recalled more specifics.

[packs]

I posted this card in the alternative first cards thread too. I have no idea who issued it but it comes from the 1959 Dominican Winter League season. Matty Alou played on the same team as a very young Willie McCovey, who may theoretically have a card out there somewhere too. Marichal also pitched in the Winter League that year and may also have a card:

[JustinD]

Just thinking back to earlier today and Al’s post, I’ll add 1951 Topps Major League All-Stars.

Adding psa and sgc together the most graded is Doby at 50 combined. The rest are far fewer and 3 are likely sub 5 in the world with only a few known.

I also would not put the 1968 Topps 3D Brooks Robinson in with the main set, but not sure if it counts as a proto.

Not sure I saw the 1969 Topps 4 in 1's listed yet either.

Edit to add 1967 Topps Discs and Stand-ups.

[frankhardy]

The "1961" Topps Dice Game cards were discovered to have been from 1963, so they should be called 1963 Topps Dice Game. That discovery may not ever gain much hobby traction, but it's the truth nevertheless.

I may or may not have had something to do with the discovery.

[frankhardy]

I'm not sure about the entire set, but I do know these are crazy rare. I believe there are only 2 of Haddix and 3 Moon that are known -

1955 Topps Hocus Focus Wally Moon (just discovered a few years ago)
1955 Topps Hocus Focus Harvey Haddix

Other than mine, Al owns one of each, and Brian Wentz owns a PSA 6 Moon (on Ebay)

Can you guys confirm if I am on track with my claim? I believe I am right on this.

[paul]

There's a 1955 Topps stamp set that is incredibly rare. I haven't seen one for sale in probably 30 years. I believe they are listed in the Standard Catalog.

[Exhibitman]

All of those are awfully hard to find, Shane. I have what I believe is the only complete boxing subset:




Kinda wish PSA'd paid more attention to orientation...

[Exhibitman]

1952 National Tea Labels. Allegedly 42 ballplayers but I haven't seen more than a few. Here's one on eBay: