I Don't Know About Ya'll (lower grades)

[Leon]

I don't know about ya'll, but since the extraordinary price increases over the last 3 yrs, I have been more lenient on lower conditioned cards.
Five years ago I wouldn't have acquired this (shown before) but now I don't mind it so much!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know about yawl, but since the extraordinary price increases over the last 3 yrs, I have been more lenient on lower conditioned cards.
Five years ago I wouldn't have acquired this (shown before) but now I don't mind it so much!

The first five words are correct. My yawl is a sailboat.

I would avoid lower conditioned yawls, as you might find yourself at the bottom of the ocean.

[Luke]

I've always liked a nice looking lower grade rare card:

[Leon]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The first five words are correct. My yawl is a sailboat.

I would avoid lower conditioned yawls, as you might find yourself at the bottom of the ocean.

Obviously not from Texas.
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[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Leon

Obviously not from Texas.
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I always thought with regional dialect that "yawl" or "y'all" as my family in the eastern south tend to use, it was at least logical.

After meeting my now wife's family from the Pittsburgh area, I quite literally had to quietly pull her aside to ask just what on earth her parents meant every time the word "yinz" popped up. (Which is a lot apparently, lol).

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I always thought with regional dialect that "yawl" or "y'all" as my family in the eastern south tend to use, it was at least logical.

After meeting my now wife's family from the Pittsburgh area, I quite literally had to quietly pull her aside to ask just what on earth her parents meant every time the word "yinz" popped up. (Which is a lot apparently, lol).

Come to Philly and learn "youse"

[Ronnie73]

I totally agree with you Leon, and Luke. I went into the T206 set with only a few rules. Purchase extremely low population cards at whatever grade came along. Usually they were 1's and 2's which were fine with me, because most others were waiting for better grades which rarely came along. I tried to stay away from major paper loss and heavy writing, but some cards had exceptions. I loved the days of being able to buy Tolstoi's, Cycles, EPDG's, and American Beauty's at $40 each. When counting all my T206's, rare backs, no prints, multiple Cobbs and a bunch of other HOF'ers, my average paid per card is $83. I'd love to add some low grade off backs that I need, for $83 nowadays, even though I'd feel like I was over paying.

I often wonder if there was something else I could have done to advance my collection, without spending more money than I have spent. If I could go back and change anything, I would have focused strickly on T206's, and left all my other hobbies behind.

[frohme]

Originally Posted by Leon

Obviously not from Texas.
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I dunno, Leon... Its y'all to me too. But then I moved to TX when I was 12.

[DHogan]

I don't mind the lower grade vintage cards at all. They are the ones I can sometimes afford. Besides, in Boston there's no letter R in the alphabet.

[ALBB]

then there's the popular - " U Gies "

[nineunder71]

Definitely Y’all and I’ve only lived in Texas and New Mexico

I looked up yawl and it has something to do with a boat

Love a great beater myself

[Leon]

Originally Posted by frohme

I dunno, Leon... Its y'all to me too. But then I moved to TX when I was 12.

I thought we played little league together?
Ok, I spelled it wrong. First mistake I have made in the last 10 minutes. I will fix it.
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[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Leon

Obviously not from Texas.
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Does it count that A) I was born and raised in Tennessee and now reside in Florida, B) my oldest sister lived in Dallas for about 5 years, and my first visit there in 1967 started me on my first round of baseball card collecting, and C) she was actually born in Mississippi, while my dad was in the Army before going overseas during WW2?

It's always been "ya'll".

[jingram058]

Oh yes back on topic, virtually all of my cards are low grade. It is fine with me. I love them.

[DeanH3]

Price escalation caused me to lower my standards, grade wise not eye appeal wise. But the continued price escalation has essentially priced me out completely on cards I want to add. I guess that’s why I have turned my attention to other collectibles for the time being.

[frohme]

Originally Posted by Leon

I thought we played little league together?
Ok,
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I guess that was when I was 12 (or was I 11?) ... I recall we lived a couple streets apart and we both played at the time, so its pretty clear we did, though not on the same team. If we did, if was just that one season as I was in Florida till then, and I think you said you left the area shortly after that...

[chadeast]

It's definitely y'all, not ya'll.

[pkaufman]

I personally think the future of "Authentic" graded vintage sports cards is bright. Especially those that present well.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

I thought we played little league together?
Ok, I spelled it wrong. First mistake I have made in the last 10 minutes. I will fix it.
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I'm a big fan of contracting "you all".

I'm also an accomplished sailboat racer.

My only objection regards spelling.

I guess there are a few that agree with me.

My yawl sits in the water and knows nothing about baseball cards.

I have nothing against the great state of Texas.

We've had this discussion before. Don't y'all remember.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by pkaufman

I personally think the future of "Authentic" graded vintage sports cards is bright. Especially those that present well.

Shhhhhhhhh! Please keep that to yourself. In fact, I don't like the tone of this entire thread. Please, everyone return to collecting slabs with high numbers on them.

[oldjudge]

The idea of writing is to communicate thoughts, so as long as I can understand your thoughts from your writing it is perfectly acceptable to me regardless how you spell the words. Houston has, or at least used to have, those “Drive Friendly” signs. To me, “Y’all” is talking friendly.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm a big fan of contracting "you all".

I'm also an accomplished sailboat racer.

My only objection regards spelling.

I guess there are a few that agree with me.

My yawl sits in the water and knows nothing about baseball cards.

I have nothing against the great state of Texas.

We've had this discussion before. Don't y'all remember.

I am sure we did. No I don't. And I might after this, and might not.

Just post a card.

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[nolemmings]

I always thought it was spelled U-Haul. Learn something new every day.

[oldjudge]

Only when carrying on a conversation

[DeanH3]

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by pkaufman

I personally think the future of "Authentic" graded vintage sports cards is bright. Especially those that present well.

I agree. Especially when something with a grade will cost so much more. I knew it was trimmed, but I couldn't afford this in any grade that looked as good.

[fkm_bky]

The lower-grade part of town is where I live. I don't mind them at all...as long as paper loss or a crease doesn't affect the front too much. Pretty much every one of my T206 HOF Portraits are VG or less.

Bill

[BobbyStrawberry]

I'm a big fan of lower grade cards!

[BobC]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I'm a big fan of lower grade cards!

Abso-frickin-lutely!

Gorgeous card, with an original blank back. Who really cares what's on the back then. If anything, that back-stamp adds some character and intrigue to the card. Who, or what, does that BH stand for? Great card and image for being approximately 135 years old.

[GeoPoto]

Here's one that somebody may have recorded the date of acquisition on:

Paul A. Hines. Outfielder with the Washington Nationals in 1886-1887. 2,133 hits and 57 home runs in 20 MLB seasons. 1884 World Series champion with the Providence Grays. 1878 Triple Crown winner. 2-time (1878 and 1879) batting champion. 1878 NL home run leader and NL RBI leader. Hines debuted with Washington in the National Association in 1972 and played for eight other MLB teams, including the Washington Blue Legs (1873), Washington Nationals (NL) (1886-1887), and, in his final season, the Washington Statesmen (1891). During the first five NL seasons, from 1876 through 1880, Hines had more base hits than any other player, and he retired third to Cap Anson and Jim O'Rourke with 1,884 career hits in the majors. His total of sixteen seasons as a major league team's primary center fielder was not surpassed until Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb in 1925.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1663758755

[yanks87]

If I didn’t have lower grade cards, I wouldn’t have a collection at all. I would rather have the card in hand than spending large amounts of money to have a pristine example of it. It all started when I found a beat to hell Brett rookie at a mall show in the 80’s for $2. I threw the money at the guy and ran out like I had just stole the Mona Lisa. Pretty much the North Star still for how I collect.

[ullmandds]

yes. in the olden days(pre 2000) I preferred cards with no disfiguring creases in my collection...and trimmed/altered was a no-go.

these days...I've been forced to embrace altered cards as the only responsible way to add cards I want...like this guy!

We have seen a major uptick in values/demand for altered/low grade cards as prices on many have skyrocketed out of reach of many. I'm at peace with preferring a reasonably altered card to an ugly card with a #!

[Jay Wolt]

Auth's & 1's give ya a bigger bang for your buck

[pete zouras]

on letter S would keep this card from receiving a number grade, or so I was told by SGC. As such the blue background is a stunner.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by BobC

Abso-frickin-lutely!

Gorgeous card, with an original blank back. Who really cares what's on the back then. If anything, that back-stamp adds some character and intrigue to the card. Who, or what, does that BH stand for? Great card and image for being approximately 135 years old.

Thanks, Bob - I don't have any info on the stamp, unfortunately

[Exhibitman]

I've been selling off slabbed high-grade cards and replacing them with lower grade cards for a few years now. Not everything, but certainly many typical 'mainstream' cards.

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

Here's one that somebody may have recorded the date of acquisition on:

Paul A. Hines. Outfielder with the Washington Nationals in 1886-1887. 2,133 hits and 57 home runs in 20 MLB seasons. 1884 World Series champion with the Providence Grays. 1878 Triple Crown winner. 2-time (1878 and 1879) batting champion. 1878 NL home run leader and NL RBI leader. Hines debuted with Washington in the National Association in 1972 and played for eight other MLB teams, including the Washington Blue Legs (1873), Washington Nationals (NL) (1886-1887), and, in his final season, the Washington Statesmen (1891). During the first five NL seasons, from 1876 through 1880, Hines had more base hits than any other player, and he retired third to Cap Anson and Jim O'Rourke with 1,884 career hits in the majors. His total of sixteen seasons as a major league team's primary center fielder was not surpassed until Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb in 1925.

Excellent Hines! He is very underrated. First unassisted triple play, first triple crown winner. He had a fascinating life.

Here is a bio I did on him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsE3c9DFKr0

As for lower grade cards, I love them as well...

[Casey2296]

Love the "1's
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[BobbyStrawberry]

Great cards, Phil and Jeremy! Those two are both on my want list...

[Jeff_cvc]

This is a great thread.

I love some of my higher graded cards as they are simply beautiful and you can picture what the cards looked like when they first saw the light. With that said, there is also a beauty to be found with our lower graded cards. These cards are over 100 years old! They shouldn't look like they are fresh from the printer, they should have a story to tell. My lower grade cards have lived a full life. If I ever reach 100 years of age, I will have scars and wrinkles, and they will hopefully have their own, rich story to tell as well.

M101-2 Jennings 1 Net54.jpg

T206 Cobb (Portrait, Red) 1 Net54.jpgT206 Cobb (Portrait, Red) 2 Net54.jpg

T227 Bender 1 Net54.jpgT227 Bender 2 Net54.jpg

N172 McVey 1 Net54.jpg

[ValKehl]

In addition to its visible flaws, I'm pretty sure this card is "skinned." But I'm happy to have it because of the strong image of Mack.

[benge610]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know about ya'll, but since the extraordinary price increases over the last 3 yrs, I have been more lenient on lower conditioned cards.
Five years ago I wouldn't have acquired this (shown before) but now I don't mind it so much!

Right there with ya, Leon.
I am a small fish, in a big pond; bottom feed by design.
The wife makes my hobby sustain itself ("buys" are funded by "sales").
My collection is driven by cool back story and low POP numbers.
Sure, it's only a, "1" but good luck finding him in E98 with a Blue Background.
I know there are a few out there but after turning my head away originally; I can look at Ol' Chance fondly.

Ben
"I love baseball history backstory; especially when it involves cards."

[Rad_Hazard]

Just got this Mantle PSA "1" to finish out my final season Willie, Mickey, and the Duke trio. It presents well and has excellent centering so I was excited to grab it! My first 1969 Mantle.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Very nice card, Jeremy - that's a great "1"!

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Does it count that A) I was born and raised in Tennessee and now reside in Florida, B) my oldest sister lived in Dallas for about 5 years, and my first visit there in 1967 started me on my first round of baseball card collecting, and C) she was actually born in Mississippi, while my dad was in the Army before going overseas during WW2?

It's always been "ya'll".

and the plural version of ya'll is "all ya'll"

U guys knew that right?

or is it just a Texas thing?

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Very nice card, Jeremy - that's a great "1"!

Thanks! I really like the 52 Bowman and 69 Topps side by side. They align well.