Was told to post these T-206's here for help so...

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I am new to these, and if someone would take the time to help me understand the value of what I have and what is worth getting graded etc I would really appreciate it. Here is the first 16 Fronts and Backs.

1. G. Brown Piedmont 150 Back






2. Hoffman Piedmont 350 Back






3. Howard Polar Bear Back







4. Kling Piedmont 150 Back






5. Kroh Piedmont 350 Back






6. Moran Piedmont 350 Back






7. Needham Piedmont 350 Back






8. Pfeffer Sweet Caporal Back






9. Pfeister Polar Bear Back

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10. Pfeister Sweet Caporal Back






11. Pfeister Polar Bear Back






12. Schulte Piedmont 150 Back






13. Shekard Piedmont 350 Back






14. Steinfeldt Piedmont 350 Back






15. Wiltse Sweet Caporal Back






16. Zimmerman Piedmont 350 Back

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17. M. Brown Pitching Old Mill Back






18. M. Brown Portrait Piedmont 150 Back






19. Chance Batting Piedmont Back






20. Chance Portrait Polar Bear Back






21. Evers Bat on shoulder Piedmont Back






22. Lundgreen Piedmont Back






23. Overall Sweet Caporal Back






24. Reulbach Sweet Caporal Back






25. Schulte Old Mill Back

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26. Tinker Batting Sweet Caporal Back






27. Tinker Hands On Knees Piedmont Back

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[swarmee]

http://www.psacard.com/smrpriceguide...te-border/1055

Cards with a pinhole should automatically grade a Poor 1 from PSA. Maybe a 1.5 from SGC.
I would think any card you think is VG or better or a Hall of Famer is worth grading. That's a great start to a collection!

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Thanks man!!! What would you put on this collection value wise? Ungraded?

[Pat R]

Hi Stephen,

If you're eventually looking to sell, the Hall of famers and the Lundgren would
be the only ones that would be worth grading as far as getting a return on
the grading fees.

I think you have the Tinker (Hands on Knees) and Bat on shoulder back scans
mixed up.

[Luke]

Yeah, what Pat said. T206 are pretty easy to figure out values for. Just look at completed sales on ebay. You have a lot of $15-35 commons and some $60-$200 HOFers. The Chance yellow and Brown OM look pretty nice. Definitely grade those (unless you only have a few cards to send in and the costs will add up to like $35 each)

[swarmee]

Look at the back of #10: it is a factory "overprint" back because there is an additional bar with circular swirls that is covering up the previous factory information. Then the new factory was printed below the frame. Some collectors who are going for complete back runs would value these a little more highly. Don't sleep on the factory numbers or series (150, 350, 460) because these variations are what a lot of T206 fans love collecting, and will pay a premium for.
Since I usually pay about $7/card for bulk submission grading, that's why I recommended grading cards at VG condition or better. If you pay more to have yours graded, maybe just go for VG/EX or EX commons.

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Originally Posted by swarmee

http://www.psacard.com/smrpriceguide...te-border/1055

Cards with a pinhole should automatically grade a Poor 1 from PSA. Maybe a 1.5 from SGC.
I would think any card you think is VG or better or a Hall of Famer is worth grading. That's a great start to a collection!

You're the man. You're of of the guys who's helped me a lot here.

Originally Posted by Pat R

Hi Stephen,

If you're eventually looking to sell, the Hall of famers and the Lundgren would
be the only ones that would be worth grading as far as getting a return on
the grading fees.

I think you have the Tinker (Hands on Knees) and Bat on shoulder back scans
mixed up.

Thanks. Ugh!! Crap you're right they are mixed up.

Originally Posted by Luke

Yeah, what Pat said. T206 are pretty easy to figure out values for. Just look at completed sales on ebay. You have a lot of $15-35 commons and some $60-$200 HOFers. The Chance yellow and Brown OM look pretty nice. Definitely grade those (unless you only have a few cards to send in and the costs will add up to like $35 each)

Appreciate the feedback!

Originally Posted by swarmee

Look at the back of #10: it is a factory "overprint" back because there is an additional bar with circular swirls that is covering up the previous factory information. Then the new factory was printed below the frame. Some collectors who are going for complete back runs would value these a little more highly. Don't sleep on the factory numbers or series (150, 350, 460) because these variations are what a lot of T206 fans love collecting, and will pay a premium for.
Since I usually pay about $7/card for bulk submission grading, that's why I recommended grading cards at VG condition or better. If you pay more to have yours graded, maybe just go for VG/EX or EX commons.

You might have to school me more on these when you have time.

[KMayUSA6060]

Reference for the different backs...

http://www.t206resource.com/Backs%20Gallery.html

... and their scarcity rankings...

http://www.t206resource.com/Back%20Rankings%20List.html

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Originally Posted by kmayusa6060

reference for the different backs...

http://www.t206resource.com/backs%20gallery.html

... And their scarcity rankings...

http://www.t206resource.com/back%20rankings%20list.html

oh snap! Fresh

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Ok heres a question...

Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Brown

How do you know if it's brown or black faded.

I included 2 photos of my old mill backs..

Are either of these brown?

If so what value is added?

[ullmandds]

bottom one is definitely black...top looks faded black.

[ullmandds]

i thought brown om's were the sl'er back?

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

i thought brown om's were the sl'er back?

What is SL'er? Im a T-20Newb

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

What is SL'er? Im a T-20Newb

SL'er = Southern Leaguer

The brown Old Mill backs only come on Southern Leaguers (technically 48 players from several minor leagues in the south), and are always hand-cut, with uneven edges. They're very rare, worth thousands of dollars in decent condition, but if the player is a major leaguer (as yours are), there's no need to worry about it. Yours are black Old Mills.

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Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

SL'er = Southern Leaguer

The brown Old Mill backs only come on Southern Leaguers (technically 48 players from several minor leagues in the south), and are always hand-cut, with uneven edges. They're very rare, worth thousands of dollars in decent condition, but if the player is a major leaguer (as yours are), there's no need to worry about it. Yours are black Old Mills.

Thanks for the help!!!!

[Bpm0014]

Brown Old Mill only found on Southern Leaguers and ALL are handcut/trimmed.

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thanks for all the help guys!

The T-206's have found a new home via trade thanks to you guys.

[mrvster]

first of all great little lot of 206's.

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I agree with the rest of the input.....



can anyone identify the errors????????? small but there???

sad but no brown old mill.....
http://www.t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html
very very rare......printer's scrap.....they are EXTREMELY easy to tell and stand out BIG TIME....... and I'm colored blind lol.....

they are 34 possible.....with 12 subjects confirmed......all southern lgers...


approximately 17-20 examples known,,,,,the real cool ones have over print errors on front,(the one like leons now my friend owns it I have seen one(greminger) triple stamped back!!!.....remember they were printers scrap...and beauties!

[swarmee]

Printers scrap cards are ones that were not fully printed or discarded during the process at some point, normally trashed in sheets and then cut apart later. That's why people mention they're hand cut instead of factory cut. Sometimes they have missing colors, sometimes they have upside down backs, or are blank backed, or have multiple cards printed on top of each other.