Cardcollectorguru on our board....

[Leon]

So here we go again with this Jose guy, cardcollectorguru. Based on an email this morning, and his other issues, he is now banned. I don't see him being allowed to come back either. I just received another, additional PM, concerning him so want to address it publicly in a thread. If you are doing any deals with him I strongly recommend you get your end of the deal before paying..... Too many issues.....he's gone.

[jgmp123]

Looking like I may be out nearly $300 because of this guy...Please let me know if anyone has his email address or phone # (that isn't disconnected). You'd think a California police officer would have more integrity!

[thehoodedcoder]

If the guy is a california police officer, what would happen if you filed a police report against him in his jurisdiction? It would be very embarressing at the very least.

kevin

[7nohitter]

I was talking to him last month about buying a Bo Jackson card....It didn't dawn on me who he was, or his past issues, until I was ABOUT to write the check...fortunately it was a low cost item.

I email him telling him that I was concerned about sending him money. His reply simply stated: Do whatever you have to do"

I did not send the money and I never heard from him.

[Robextend]

I had problems with him as well, see this thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=178809

Fortunately the deal eventually got done and the 1964 Topps Giants Ken Boyer auto passed 3rd party authentication (not to say that means it is 100% guaranteed authentic).

I feel bad for anyone that got screwed by this guy, but at least he won't be able to do it anymore thanks to Leon and some concerned board members.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Looking like I may be out nearly $300 because of this guy...Please let me know if anyone has his email address or phone # (that isn't disconnected). You'd think a California police officer would have more integrity!

Just reading this and wanted to say I hope it works out and you get your money back. But the thing that struck me was that you noted he was a California police officer. It's hard for me to imagine a police officer would be engaged in ripping people off online. My point being, is maybe he is not really a police officer-and if he's not, impersonating a police officer may be a felony offense? Something to look into.

Sincerely, Clayton

[jgmp123]

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

Wow. That's insane. Loss for words...

Sincerely, Clayton

[jp1216]

Got a card from him last month. Paid by check and had the card in hand about 2 weeks later. Nothing bad to report on my end.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jp1216

Got a card from him last month. Paid by check and had the card in hand about 2 weeks later. Nothing bad to report on my end.

Yeah, I read in the other thread that people ended up getting their cards. Hopefully this works out for James the same way.

Sincerely, Clayton

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Yeah, I read in the other thread that people ended up getting their cards. Hopefully this works out for James the same way.

Sincerely, Clayton

All that happened before he was banned.

[quinnsryche]

He committed to buy a signed ball from me a few months back. He never sent the money and made a bunch of excuses. Never did the deal, sold to another member. LOSER!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

All that happened before he was banned.

He was only banned this morning. I could un-ban him but I don't think that will help.
He has emailed me this evening so we will see where it goes. There are 2 outstanding issues (not "good" outstanding either), this being one of them.

[jgmp123]

Leon,

I'll post this for the non-auto folks....

After being tipped off to this being his possible eBay ID: chasman633 (same items he has sold here)...I sent them a message and gave a call to the owner of that id. He explained to me that he knows Jose the same way we do, he purchased a ton of Walter Payton stuff from him on Craigslist and has kept going to him for some items. He then said that Jose had asked him to sell some things for him (Ken Boyer, Bo Jackson, etc.) through eBay.

He said that he would pass the message along to Jose and ask him to reach out to me. The plot thickens.

It actually looks like this guy is a pretty stand-up police officer, so I really hope that this just comes down to him being too busy to send things out on time.

Who knows..I just know i'm out $300.

I suppose he still has access to read everything here, so hopefully he will reach out.
jgmp123@yahoo.com

[bender07]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

He committed to buy a signed ball from me a few months back. He never sent the money and made a bunch of excuses. Never did the deal, sold to another member. LOSER!

Same situation I had with him

[chaddurbin]

from my interaction with him he was a lil flaky, and i had to keep after him (through calling and texting) but we did complete 1 deal and he sent me a refund for another (took about 2 weeks and 2 tries supposedly the first refund got lost). this was before his number got disconnected tho.

[daves_resale_shop]

Had a similar poor experience back in September that ended up getting resolved with Leon's assistance...

I vowed not to do business with him again...

[slidekellyslide]

Looks like this guy has fabricated a back story that has him being drafted by the Mariners in 1998 and playing second base for them in 2000-2002.

If you look in notable citizens at the link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_California

[t206trader]

He posted a question and then an answer on wiki answers asking "How long did Joseph Tijero play baseball?" If you look at answer history it becomes apparent that he both asked and answered the question with false information to help "solidify" his Seattle mariner back story. The 36th pick of the draft that was actually Raphael Freeman not "Joseph Tijero" Mariners did not even have a pick in the supplemental 1 draft that Jose claimed to have been taken in. Does he think people will actually believe this stuff?

[daves_resale_shop]

This is getting a little crazy... Has anyone called his pd department to see if this is the same guy (I am beginning to thinkable it's not).
If it is him, he may taken aback by the direct contact and if not he may want to get involved in this persons pursuit:
The facts:

1- he claims to be a cop (as rated in his profile)
2- his sales methodology has created several concerns within a very trustworthy community. (Over promise and under deliver)
3-only modes of payment check/mo
4-someone has set up false websites in this persons name
5-he has distributed a cellphone to members which has been disconnected
6-some of the material he has attempted to sell is questionable...

Not sure he has committed a criminal act thus far but someone should definitely call that pd

[btcarfagno]

Are we certain that this same person posting here is the one trying to fabricate the Seattle Mariners story thing? Or is that just speculation? Has he ever told anyone on here that he used to play pro ball?

Tom C

[slidekellyslide]

If anyone here wrote a check to him, was it made out to Joseph or Jose Tijero?

[smokelessjoe]

Hey Dan, here is his about me page and he filled out his real name???

About cardcollectorguru
Real Name
Joseph
Location
California
Collecting Interests
High end autograph from deceased players PSA/DNA
Occupation
Police Officer

[jp1216]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

If anyone here wrote a check to him, was it made out to Joseph or Jose Tijero?

My check was made out to Jose Tijero.

[jgmp123]

My check was also made out to Jose Tijero

[Leon]

I just spoke with Jose on the phone for several minutes. He is very cordial and answered every question I had. This is a tough one. . He confirms he is a sheriff. He confirms his nickname is Joseph, which is pretty common I think. He says he has never had anything to do with any Pro football tryouts or anything like that. He said James' stuff was shipped out and he did ship it a bit late. He confirmed that because of his job he changes his phone number fairly often. As for Jason's issue, he says Jason said he was going to send the item to JSA, after PSA said it wasn't good,......but Jason hasn't gotten back to him. So that is where we are right now....I dunno....

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Leon

Pro football tryouts or anything like that.

Did you ask him about the Mariners?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Did you ask him about the Mariners?

My mistake....when I was on the phone I thought it was a football team for some reason. I do know who the Mariners are . But no, I didn't ask him.

[thehoodedcoder]

if you asked about pro football, one would think he would have mentioned pro baseball if he had.

kevin

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

if you asked about pro football, one would think he would have mentioned pro baseball if he had.

kevin

maybe Kevin....I am really up in the air on this situation right now. I know of no one defrauded and he has been on the board 2 yrs. I am not saying it couldn't still happen, after all, in watching the news today it did look like Hell Froze over recently ..
There are 2 currently open issues, I expect them to be resolved as all of the others have been. Most likely, we'll get through these couple of situations and he will be allowed back but not on the BST. I don't need the drama . A few other members are only on the main forums too.

[insccollectibles]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

Not ironic at all. With police officers pay being around $26,000-$30,000 gross a year to put their life on the line. I'm not condoning being corrupt but this could possibly contribute to it happening.

[Bpm0014]

There aren't any police officers that make $30,000. I live in Pittsburgh. After about a couple of years, almost all cops make $100,000.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

There aren't any police officers that make $30,000. I live in Pittsburgh. After about a couple of years, almost all cops make $100,000.

Right and wrong.


New York City Police Department


As of 2010, the New York Police Department offers cadets enrolled in the police academy annual pay of $44,474. Rookie police officers get a raise to $46,288 after six months on the job. You are given another raise to $48,173 after 18 months. After 2.5 years of experience, you get another raise to $53,819, and at 3.5 years your total annual pay increases to $58,876. You get another salary bump at 4.5 years on the job, bringing you up to $62,455 a year. At five years, you are up to $69,005, and with 5.5 years of experience, you get a large increase to a total annual salary of $90,829. These salary figures do not include overtime pay.


Austin Police Department


Cadets in the Austin Police Department are paid $2667 a month for the eight-month police academy program. You will earn $55,563 a year during your first year as a probationary officer in the APD. You could, however, earn an annual salary up to $64,452 if you were bilingual and had a college degree. After your one-year anniversary, you will receive a pay increase to $62,352 a year, or $70,722 annually with the same bilingual and education incentive bonuses. After two years, you receive a base annual salary of $68,819, which could increase to $81,559 if you added field officer training and crisis-intervention officer training bonuses to the bilingual and education incentives. Overtime pay is not included in these salary figures.


Los Angeles Police Department


The Los Angeles Police Department pays police academy cadets an annual step-one salary of $47,982. After six months of service, you receive an increase to step two at $49,924 a year. After another 12 months, or 18 total months of service, you move up to step three, at $51,866 a year. You get another pay increase to $54,747 at step four, when you reach 2.5 years of service, and a raise to $59,967 at step five, with 3.5 years experience. You reach step six with 4.5 years of experience, and receive another salary increase to $62,389. The LAPD also offers additional incentives for having a college degree, foreign language skills or hazard pay.


Tampa Police Department


The Tampa Police Department operates on an 11-step salary system. You begin at step one with an annual salary of $46,384.40, and move up to step two at $46,384. Over time, you can work your way up to step ten, at $67,620.80, or even master patrol officer at $75,358.40. The Tampa Police Department also offers several education incentives and shift premium pay.

[insccollectibles]

My source

http://www.indeed.com/salary/Police-Officer.html

"Average Police Officer salaries for job postings nationwide are 58% lower than average salaries for all job postings nationwide."

[4815162342]

Whatever they make, it's not enough.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Whatever they make, it's not enough.

they end up screwing the system over anyway. the cronies keep the employee count low so they get over time, which i believe is double pay. they keep their vacation time and sick pay so as they get older and make more money they take it at a higher salary. there are cops in nj that make 150k plus and they are not even that high up the chain of command.

not all cops put their lives on 'the line' there are tons of them directing traffic at tax payers expenses while the electric company fixes power lines, have a full time job at the dmv wasting everyones time and money, or have full time jobs at the court houses.

this is not to mention there are tons of dirty cops. if you don't have a story about a bogus cop, then you haven't lived my friend. everyone knows one or has a story.

kevin

[JasonD08]

A few transactions with Joe on Bo Jackson and Payton items. He did take awhile and they were legit autos. I had to chase him for one transaction but it worked out.

Jason

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

this is not to mention there are tons of dirty cops. if you don't have a story about a bogus cop, then you haven't lived my friend. everyone knows one or has a story.

kevin

I guess I haven't lived because I have never known a "Bogus cop". Do they exist? Sure, we may even have one scamming our fellow Net54ers, but scammers (or "Bogus" people) can be found in any profession.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Right and wrong.


These salary figures do not include overtime pay.

That's the key phrase right there. Even if there isn't official overtime for newer officers there's a lot of work doing paid details.

Here in Ma. That translates to directing traffic. Or, more cynically, either stopping traffic to let people out of an office complex. Or talking with construction guys as they dig a hole.
Other places I've been they're a lot more active about actually directing traffic, and some guys are better than others.

But Ill also say Kevin is wrong about the job not being risky. Even the traffic directing part.
One time I had to be a flag guy for a truck loading on a fairly rural road close enough to a corner that they needed a flag guy. Reflective vest, reflective flag, 35 mph speed limit average closer to 50. Maybe 20 cars came by. Anyone want to guess how many actually slowed down? Or how many blew the horn at me? Or how many threw a can or fast food wrapper at me?
( The answers are 0, 6 and 2)
When I told the cop who had done the work at the truck itself, he said I'd done pretty well.
I can't really picture trying to do that while standing in the street instead of at the side.

Steve B

[tschock]

Regarding police officers. As with any occupation, the good ones don't get paid nearly enough while the bad ones are woefully overpaid, maybe by 100% (or more).

[Comiskey]

I really think that our PD officers are at least getting compensated for putting their lives on the line. It's like anything, a lot of times people only see the easy part of the job. My brother is a cop, who most of the time probably just cruises the streets. But when I did a ride a long with him a while back, it was at night and he had to pull over a car. I thought he was crazy because he walked up to this car by himself to investigate. I was thinking to myself that he has no idea who was in the car, maybe the person had a gun or was a felon and could blow him away. I thought about his job and his family, and how easily things can change for him. Police officers walk around with a target on their back at all times.

I was thinking the other day about the time magazine cover of the boston bombings, who's on the cover? Police officers drawing their guns because the bomb went off. They weren't running away like I would have been, they were putting their lives on the line when duty calls.

And, when I turn on my tv to see an athlete or actor getting paid millions and millions of dollars for entertainment purposes, it blows me away that people rant that police officers, teachers, etc., are getting paid too much.

Jeff

[rainier2004]

Well said Jeff.

I know some bogus officers and they suck. I also knew an officer that was killed on a traffic stop and my father-in-laws partner of 20 years was killed in a chase...they weren't paid anywhere near enough. Just imagine a night time traffic stop...dark, by yourself and that d-bag in the car could have his 9-mil pointed between your eyes as you approach the car, and this is every traffic stop they call "routine".

Actors and ball players make a lot of money, shows where our cultural priorities are.

[Bpm0014]

To add: Most cops get crazy overtime with court time (that pays 2.5-4x their hourly pay). Not to mention details which pay roughly $75 an hour. Most cops here in Pittsburgh (middle class city) make $80k-$110k (total).

[daves_resale_shop]

This thread has gotten way off track and I think its about time it gets reeled in...

We are dealing with a boardmember (now banned-thank you Leon) who has over promised and under delivered on at least 5 occasions, there are 2 situations where he has allegedly defrauded other members...

If this gent is truly a police officer he should be ashamed of himself... His duty is to protect and serve, to be honest and ethical while being a pillar in his community...

Clearly there are bad apples in every bunch (propreitors, lawyers, doctors, carpenters, machinists, Sports Memorabilia Dealers etc...)... but the bottom line is that police officers, fire fighters, and military take an inherent risk when they sign on for the job...

I don't feel that it is appropriate to comment on their duties. One day they may be directing traffic at a of rate of $50 an hour, the next day they may be risking their lives chasing the person who just invaded your home & stole your possessions for $15 per hour...

In my opinion, this cat Jose is not a good egg... But to lump other public servants into this discussion (good/bad/indifferent) is just not fair.

[7nohitter]

[QUOTE=daves_resale_shop;1226273]This thread has gotten way off track and I think its about time it gets reeled in...

We are dealing with a boardmember (now banned-thank you Leon) who has over promised and under delivered on at least 5 occasions, there are 2 situations where he has allegedly defrauded other members...



THANK YOU!

[yankeeno7]

I just found this thread. I am outstanding for 385.00 with this guy. Does anyone have his contact information? I need to be made whole on this.
Thanks
Barry

[Leon]

Originally Posted by yankeeno7

I just found this thread. I am outstanding for 385.00 with this guy. Does anyone have his contact information? I need to be made whole on this.
Thanks
Barry

Just sent to you......good luck...

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by daves_resale_shop

In my opinion, this cat Jose is not a good egg...

Well, naturally. you can't be both.

Kevin

[Leon]

Just an fyi, looks like ole Jose is quite pervasive. I have had 2-3 more PMs in the last few days concerning cards that members have bought and not received yet. For those sympathetic to his issues, don't be.

[chaddurbin]

i had to keep at him for about 2 weeks to get my refund, basically texting/calling and even telling him to send the refund with tracking...but in the end i did get it. don't know if it had any effect, but this was before his issues blew up on the board and he was banned.

i don't agree with the waiting period for new people selling. it's hard to monitor who could be a potential scammer, but we could make it harder like not allowing new people to accept check/mo/pp gift only. regular paypal is still safe against most types of online scammers.