E104-II Nadja Wagner

[Leon]

Pretty good gig if he gets it. He shows that PSA said it was questionable authenticity (fake) then puts it at $300 with a reserve. I hope no one falls for it. And I am one who thinks PSA does a good job overall but I wish they would put "Counterfeit" and this kind of stuff wouldn't happen (or it would happen less). I guess it's a liability issue or something. Bottom line, this is a fake card.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-E104-II...item3a823b2951


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[sycks22]

Gotta appreciate the picture outside on some sidewalk. That's where he found it I bet.

[e107collector]

I always liked this card, but I figured I would hold out for a "Nadja" backed example. Does anyone know how many Wagner's have a Nadja back? I'm assuming less than 5?

Tony

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Gotta appreciate the picture outside on some sidewalk. That's where he found it I bet.

This explains the soil mark on the back side near the bottom.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by e107collector

I always liked this card, but I figured I would hold out for a "Nadja" backed example. Does anyone know how many Wagner's have a Nadja back? I'm assuming less than 5?

Tony

Is Nadja back substantilly rarer than blank?

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Is Nadja back substantilly rarer than blank?

Ian,

I'm pretty sure they are rarer than the blank back, and are also more desirable.

I know a SGC 60 Wagner with Nadja back sold a few years ago in a Mastro auction. It hasn't resurfaced since.

Tony

[Leon]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Is Nadja back substantilly rarer than blank?

I have tracked Nadjas informally for several years. I have seen more than 20 blank backs for every Nadja back. I would estimate there are less than 5 known Wagners with Nadja backs. I have seen 2-3 .....

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have tracked Nadjas informally for several years. I have seen more than 20 blank backs for every Nadja back. I would estimate there are less than 5 known Wagners with Nadja backs. I have seen 2-3 .....

Hmmmmm.. Makes me want a Nadja.

Thanks for info, I've only looked at PSA pop reports on the E104's.. And there's only 1 Wagner blank listed and no Nadja's... I know there're more in SGC since I've seen a handful listed (via AH past listings), including that SGC60 Nadja back.

ADDING- that's an amazing looking Clarke btw! I always loved he spelled it with an "e"

[Rickyy]

I saw that Wagner... yeah a bad one at that... a real E104 Nadja backs are such a pain to find...


Ricky Y

[sportscardpete]

Nadjas backed e104-1,2, and 3s are incredibly hard to find. I never had a problem paying extra if it had a nadja back because they rarely ever come up! I think these sets would be more widely traded if they were sold more often; the fact that they don't come around much makes them less popular.

Leon is pretty spot on with the 20-1 blank backed to nadja back ratio, maybe even a tad higher.

Here is an example I have from each subset -

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