e107 vs t206

[bn2cardz]

I was curious about what threads had the most views so I sorted by that on the main page and noticed that not a single thread in the first page when sorted by the most views had t206 in its title, yet there were 8 threads with e107 in the title.

In the time I have been here I always assumed that t206 garnered more interest than any other set on this site, but by sorting the page by views now I think that e107 has a lot more interested parties than the t206 set does.

So is t206 the poor man's version of the e107. Do a lot of collectors only gravitate to the t206 because it is in their budget and/or are unwilling to wait for more e107s to come up for sale?

What is your take on this?

[g_vezina_c55]

E107 set is almost impossible to build ...
Price are not for everyone
almost no disponibility in E107

I read each E107 thread and almost each T206 thread

[TUM301]

Like Nelson, I read each thread that comes up with an E 107 reference in it. Why, because you don`t see them anywhere near as often as all the 206 threads and the 107 set still has that vail of mystery to it. Love the black and white set up as well it being the 1`st major set to usher in the 20`th century. Have 12 at the moment and would have to go with the E 107 Matty as my favorite card of all time. My 2 cents.

[g_vezina_c55]

wow 12 E107 cards is an accomplishment. I will never start this set because i know i have not enough money and will never have enough money to finish this set The only E107 card i will probably own in my life is the Plank card, perhaps someday.
Congrat Murphy

[sb1]

Don't feel bad Nelson, even the guys with plenty of money can't complete the E107 set! There simply are not enough of the tough team variations in existence.

[dstudeba]

In the time you have been here you are correct that T206 has garnered the board's attention. If you look at the dates on those results you will notice the e107 threads were started before you joined. There was a time when this board was not dominated by T206. Some of us are still stuck in those old ways, please forgive our ignorance.

[Matthew H]

Mike Tyson vs. "the hurricane"

[ullmandds]

ditto what Dan said...the thread content used to be much more varied than these days.

It is an interesting comparison though...despite the fact that these 2 sets appear to have very little in common.

I'd surmise that E107 was somewhat of an experiment...a prototype you might say for later sets...hence the short supply of cards...was possibly produced in b/w to save $$$ and why it contains supreme rarities of some of the variations.

The E107 paved the way for sets like e90-1 and t206to be produced which came much later.

[terjung]

There is a lot of infatuation with the E107 set. I know that I pay particular attention whenever they are being discussed as they are my favorite set. (Go figure given my avatar.) Similar to T206 guys, E107 guys tend to be pretty passionate about the set, but in my experience, the infatuation doesn't wear off as much over the years.

I read probably less than 10% of the T206 threads.

I have owned a decent number of E107 HOFers, but have never bought a T206.

[sb1]

"I have owned a decent number of E107 HOFers, but have never bought a T206."

Well we can sure change that pretty quick, how about an instant near set of 523?? I mean why waste time piecing one together. the chase is overrated!

[sb1]

What's an E107 thread without a pic

[terjung]

Originally Posted by sb1

"I have owned a decent number of E107 HOFers, but have never bought a T206."

Well we can sure change that pretty quick, how about an instant near set of 523?? I mean why waste time piecing one together. the chase is overrated!

I'll pass. Thanks for the offer though. I do agree with you that it's not really much of a chase when that type of opportunity is so prevelent.

The E107 set or Jim's N167 set? Now, those are a chase!

[g_vezina_c55]

I must agree, building a t206 set is not a difficult thing to do. It is probably the main reason why a lot of people are in the chase. Avalaibility of the card.. easy to find at cheap price.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by sb1

What's an E107 thread without a pic

This Plank is amazing. You own that card since long time?

[sb1]

Nelson,

I owned it(prior to slabbing) card on right and this one on left, as well as 1 other lower grade one. Most were obtained 2003 and prior. Sorry for the tiny scan.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by sb1

Nelson,

I owned it(prior to slabbing) card on right and this one on left, as well as 1 other lower grade one. Most were obtained 2003 and prior. Sorry for the tiny scan.

Verry nice.

[sb1]

While we are on the E107 subject I have dupes of Coughlan G/Vg, Mitchell VG and Hickman EXMT front, two small spots of back damage at the top, to trade for other commons I don't have. PM me if interested.

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

So is t206 the poor man's version of the e107. Do a lot of collectors only gravitate to the t206 because it is in their budget and/or are unwilling to wait for more e107s to come up for sale?

What is your take on this?

I gravitated to t206's because I liked them - it's that simple.
I collect them because they are available, they are in my budget, and I like to build sets. I considered it a chase ( I suppose it depends upon your perspective), and I did enjoy it.

I also like to read the threads about e107's (along with many other pre-war issues) and appreciate the set.

I'm certain I'll never attempt the e107 set (short of winning the lottery) mostly due to funds, but also because I'm a little impatient. I would however like to get an example for my type collection! Unfortunately, even that seems like a long shot due to cost. No worries though....

[rainier2004]

I love e107s and will read every thread and possibly 1/4 of the 206 thread. I got 2 e107s and zer0 206s in the collection and would consider the e107 wags and matty my 2 favorite all-time cards that seem to be very under appreciated outside the hobby.

[sb1]

Nothing wrong with T206's, they are the Morgan Dollar of card collecting and a dealer's dream, lots of supply AND demand. I put my set together many years ago. The back matrix has now picked up an entire new spectrum of collectors and really requires some indepth research, which many collectors thrive on. I know for a fact that the few sets I still collect, I researched and studied the ins and outs(no not that thread), of the subject matter, before during and after the hunt. One of the things I really liked about E107's was the difficulty of completing the set, no amount of money can do it, just time and searching and shear luck. This is also true of the set I now collect.

[e107collector]

E107's are my favorite set, hence my user id. I've been following the set for the last 8 years now. I always read threads related to them, and I think some of the most knowledge collectors about the set are board members here.

The black and white Horner portraits always fascinated me, compared to a color lithograph.

I will be following the sales of some of the cards tonight, but won't be bidding. There are too many great cards coming up all at once, and my budget can only go so far! I'm still saying $165K on the Matty tonight.

Here is my E107 Plank:



Tony

[shammus]

There was one time when I had 3/4ths of the set complete. I've always had challenges trying to remain focused on a project long enough to complete it. There's so many cards in so many other sets that I really like and it was difficult for me to have several hundred tied up into each common and then anywhere from 4 to 15k tied up into each Hofer.

What's that? You don't believe I had 3/4ths of the set complete?? Oh, my fault, should have added that it was a Type 2 set I was going for....

[e107collector]

Brian,

How close did you come to completing the Type 2 set? In your opinion, which type 2 is the toughest? The Delehanty?

Tony

[sb1]

Delehanty can't be that hard, I have one right here

(on the right)

Notice the text difference at the bottom.

[shammus]

Hey Tony! Hope you are well....

I had 6 of the 8 cards, although I was able to acquire a 7th, Tenney, at a later date. Still have that one actually.

I'd say the toughest would be Seybold. I've never been able to confirm that a Type 2 Seybold even exists. All the others I've seen anywhere from 2 to 5 examples of including Tenney and Waddell, which was the most recent addition to the Type 2 checklist a few years ago. The Delehanty was far and away the most expensive but not the toughest. Each time I've seen a Type 2 Delehanty up for auction it goes between 12-15k. Lajoie is the Type 2 I've seen the most of to date.

I won Chris Sullivan's Type 2 Keeler a few weeks back from Legendary. First time in years that I think I've owned an e107 HOFer...

[sb1]

I never had a Seybold either, I only had 5 different back when I accumulated them.

[shammus]

I went as far as to touch base with a few of the longtime collectors not on Net 54 to see if they had a Seybold or could confirm it's existance. In some cases, I had to have a buddy of mine from here contact someone they knew to tell me "yes" or "no". Funny enough, I was able to contact Keith Olbermann once, through a good hobby friend of mine who knew Keith and was kind enough to be willing to reach out to him on my behalf. Turns out, he didn't have one either...heh!

[e107collector]

If you or Scott can't confirm one, and Chris Sullivan didn't obtain one, maybe the Seybold doesn't exist?

Tony

[sb1]

Most of the E107 collectors in the early days did not care, The type 2 just filled a hole.. for example Chris only had 1-2 overprint backs, I had 39, he didn't chase them and I just happened to find a few groups with a lot of them. My Type 2 Delehanty and Keeler were both part of a guys E107 set, he could have cared less about the thick gray stock.

Which brings us to the what are they part of the story, which I will save my thoughts for another thread.

[e107collector]

Scott,

On your Type 2 Delehanty, I'm pretty sure it has the "overprint" back, correct? Is the back blank, or does it also have the 1 of 150 text as well, along with the overprint?

It seems like some of your Type 2's can be classified as a type 3.

Tony

[shammus]

Well, truth be told, I think a case could already be made for a "Type 3". Has nothing to do with the overprints really, but I firmly believe that certain Type 2s are made of a completely different material. Many are the thicker, greyish toned cardboard stock that we're used to seeing. Gives me the impression they were cut off a box lid or something like that. But I had a Delehanty and one other Type 2 which was white and smooth as a cueball on the back and was a thinner stock, as though it came off of an advertising poster of some sort where maybe a nicer paper/cardboard material was used.

[sb1]

The Delehanty does have the overprint and is on the heavy gray stock. I think the gray stocked ones probably came off some type of packaging that the product came in. If Brian has thin ones with the Type 2 fonts they may be ad pieces. Further I think there were different issuers/users of the cards. Some of the blank backs have different text layouts at the bottom, versus series of 150 backs and may have actually been printed in 1903 or 1904( I would have to check team changes to confirm the year). And it's possible ALL of the overprints were redemptions and stamped at the same time. They all run they same direction and many have wet print transfer from the back stamp to the fronts as they were stacked.

There are so few cards and so many differences, many possibilities exist.

[e107collector]

Scott,

After looking at your Delehanty's side by side, the Type 2 on the right has a nicer, more vivid image.

Tony