NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #1  
Old 02-16-2023, 02:06 PM
tpeichel tpeichel is offline
member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 49
Default Broders, Dan Even and the Helmar Rabbit Hole

Hi,
I joined the site recently so I thought I would introduce myself. I had heard of Net54 from time to time, but my focus has always been oddball cards for superstars of the 80s, so I never pulled the trigger to register here.

I started selling oddball cards in the early 1990s, magazine inserts, pins, buttons, magnets, variations, test issues, food issues and unlicensed cards. By far the most frequently sold were the unlicensed issues, so in the early 2000s I started a quest to try and catalogue all of the unlicensed issues. At first in Access and then about ten years ago a website (supercollector catalog).

From time to time I had heard of a Broder book with checklists for all of the sets, but I never found one, until a few days ago. It is in the mail as I write. The author was Dan Even, which eventually led me here, where I unfortunately learned of his recent passing. I would have loved to pick his brain about the story around the whole "Broder" saga.

Love them or hate them, "Broders" have made an impact on the industry. It seems like the same arguments that were bandied about during the 1990s over unlicensed issues have resurfaced with the advent of "custom" cards like the Helmars. I spent quite a while reading through several threads discussing the new Helmars on these boards. Very interesting. I did a search on eBay for them, and as a novice, I really had no idea what was new and what was old. My two cents is they should be dated to easily identify what they are, especially because they are aged to make them look vintage. Beautiful cards though, I see why collectors like them.

One set I really wanted to discuss with Dan was a sample Broder set from 1989. It took elements from the earlier Action Superstars sets and the later 1991 Play Ball sets. They arrived in a big lot of cards I purchase and were the only "Broder" with a MLB logo on the front. My theory is this was a test run of some sort in preparation for creating the 1991 Play Ball set. I have only seen a few over the years. There are four Griffeys, three Mattinglys and two Kevin Mitchells.

http://www.supercollectorcatalog.com...logo-test.html

I have continued searching but have never been able to find any other players and they have not popped up on eBay for years. If you know of any others, please let me know!

Interestingly, prices for Broders have been going up over the years as supply has dried up. I used to pick up sets for $1-2, no more. $5, $10 or $20 are more common prices now, while the 1987 Broder Play Ball Japan is $40-$50! (I took a look at it recently and it has five out of the eight players in the Japanese league 500 HR club: Oh, Kiyohara, Ochiai, Kinugasa, Kadota. Not sure if that has anything to do with the price jump though. In all likelihood it is the interest in Sadaharu Oh as someone on eBay is trying to get $300 for a graded version.) Anyways, I believe that was the only Japanese set Rob Broder created.

I do have a good vintage story from the best trade I ever made with my piano teacher in 1983, but that is for another thread.

Tim Peichel
Reply With Quote
 




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Let's see some counterfeits, reprints, fakes, fugazies, Broders, etc. Exhibitman Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 26 09-09-2022 08:30 PM
how bad is it to have a pin hole? lug-nut Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 52 02-21-2014 11:05 AM
What an a$$hole !! Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 07-30-2008 04:18 AM
Does anyone know about this rabbit? Archive Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 9 06-22-2008 05:31 AM
Rabbit Maranville Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 11-24-2003 06:52 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:35 AM.


ebay GSB