1911 Zeenuts

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Posted By: Ben Y.

I am looking to buy or trade for these 1911 Zeenuts.
They are some of the cards that I need, to try and
get real close to finishing the set.
If there are any plain old collectors out there,any
help would be greatly appreciated. I have been working on this, for at least 6 years.
Please send scans to my Email address. Beesweb2006@yahoo.com
Thank you,
Ben
1.Agnew
2.Arlett
3.Bohen
4.Brown
5.Carson
6.Delmas
7.McKune
8.Raleigh
9.Smith LA.

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

Sorry that I can not help with any of those cards, but I do have a question for those with more complete sets than mine. I have 63 different cards or 50% of the set. If these cards are equally scarce as the guides indicate - then the chance that I would not have 1 of these cards is 2 in 1000 or .2% - so I think that some cards are rarer at this point in time. Weather they were at issue is another matter. Maybe the cards are from less popular teams or players at the time of issue and disappeared rapidly after issue. Any thoughts?

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

Peter, great question - I'm kind of curious about this myself and have wondered this same thing about a number of other sets (ie...t209, d311, 1909 Obaks...etc..)

I haven't been going after this set nearly as long as Ben or others so I wouldn't be a good at identifying the "Set toughies". I know of the three players which are well-known to be notoriously tough in this set. There is a fourth card that I feel will be tough as more of us get a little closer to completion as there is a descendent of this player collecting his cards.

One observation is that many cards that I need (I need 11 to finish off the set) are not the same ones that others need. Out of the 11 I still need, Steve Murray has 8 of them oddly enough. Out of the 9 Ben needs above, I have 7 of them. This would lead me to believe that while there are 3-5 set toughies, many of the cards Ben and I still need are certainly attainable

Your observation about the different teams is also a good one. I haven't noticed any difficulty gathering cards for specific teams though in the Z11 set. The 11 cards I still need are scattered pretty evenly across several teams and I believe the same can be said about the 9 players Ben needs. However, team scarcity does come into play in other sets such as d311. I've heard a few people say that Sacramento players seem to be a little tougher to find in that particular issue and out of the seven cards I still need to complete the d311 set, 5 of them are indeed Sacramento players.

Hope this helps a bit....

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Posted By: Andy Cook

Ben, I have a Raleigh (small pose) at http://members.aol.com/typecard/trade.html Andy

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Posted By: Steve M.

What with Brian (not you Shammus)snarfing all of the Miller cards I had to settle on this dog:

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Posted By: Brian

I would be happy to take that beater off your hands, Steve

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Posted By: Steve M.

Actually Brian I kind of really like the card, warts and all.

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Posted By: Brian

I agree. I don't care too much about condition.

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Posted By: Bob

I think what you guys need to do is resign yourselves to the fact you'll never complete the set and sell your cards to those of us who are working on the set (1911 Zs)

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Posted By: Bob

Arlett is the 4th toughest card in the set and since Weaver is collected because of who he is and Halla is so tough because he is a horizontal card, I think he is really #2 behind Bohen.

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Posted By: Steve M.

are you saying:

1. Bohen
2. Halla
3. Weaver
4. Arlett

If so do we put Peckinpaugh No. 5?

Do we put the "box" cards in the mix? At least in the top 10 I would imagine.

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

I'd lean towards agreeing with TBob here. Weaver and Peckinpaugh really aren't all that scarce/tough in my opinion. They do carry a premium because of what happened later on with their careers and that makes them more desireable, not necessarily scarce. I've seen Halla cards pop up from time to time and I know where a couple might be right now. Arlett I'm not sure about although I do see that, aside from Bohen, that is the only card that Ben and I both need. As for Bohen, I did hear a story about the Bohen card being removed from production (ala t206 Wagner) so that could be the reason for that card's scarcity. I don't really believe the theory about Bohen's card being scarce because he was Jewish because Bohen's 1912 Zeenut seems to be pretty readily available.

What we all need to do is compare lists of the cards we're still needing. Then we can slot those as the true set toughies

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Posted By: Steve M.

Here is the complete list. I consider the set complete at 122 cards. Cut and paste those that you have leaving what you need:


Abbott
Ables
Agnew
Akin
Arellanes
Arlett
Barry
Baum
Bernard
Berry
Bohen
Brackenridge
Brashear
Brown
Browning
Burrell
Byram
Byram
Carlisle
Carman
Carson
Castleton
Chadbourne
Christian
Couchman
Coy
Criger
Cutsaw
Daley
Danzig
Delhi
Delmas
Dillon
Discoll
Driscoll
Dulin
Fanning
Fitzgerald
Flater
French
Fullerton
Gleason
Gregory
Halla
Heitmuller
Henley
Hetling
Hiester
Hitt
Hoffman
Hogan
Holland
Hosp
Howard
Kane
Kerns
Kilroy
Knight
Koestner
Krueger
Kuhn
LaLonge
Lerchen
Leverenz
Lewis
Lindsay
Lober
Madden
Maggert
Mahoney
Martinoni
McArdle
McCredie
McDonnell
McKune
Meikle
Melchoir
Metzger
Miller
Mitze
Mohler
Moore
Moskiman
Murray
Naylor
Nebinger
Nourse
Noyes
O'Rourke
Patterson
Patterson Oak
Pearce
Peckinpaugh
Pernoll
Pfyl
Powell
Raleigh
Rapps
Rodgers
Ryan Box
Ryan No Box
Ryan SF
Seaton
Shaw
Sheehan
Shinn
Smith LA
Smith SF
Steen
Stewart
Stinson
Sutor
Tennant
Thomas
Thompson
Thornton
Tiedeman
Van Buren
Vitt
Wares
Weaver
Wolverton
Zacher
Zamloch

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Posted By: Steve M.

Agnew
Akin
Arlett
Baum
Bernard
Berry
Bohen
Brashear
Brown
Browning
Carlisle
Carman
Carson
Christian
Cutsaw
Danzig
Delhi
Delmas
Dillon
Discoll
Driscoll
Dulin
Fanning
Fullerton
Gleason
Halla
Heitmuller
Henley
Hetling
Holland
Hosp
Howard
Kilroy
Knight
Krueger
LaLonge
Lewis
Lindsay
McArdle
McCredie
McKune
Meikle
Melchoir
Metzger
Noyes
Patterson Oak
Pfyl
Rapps
Ryan Box
Ryan No Box
Ryan SF
Seaton
Shaw
Shinn
Smith LA
Smith SF
Steen
Stewart
Stinson
Thomas
Thompson
Thornton
Tiedeman
Van Buren
Vitt
Zamloch

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

I think I'm going to start an Excel spreadsheet....it will make this easier to track...anyone who is interested may send me your 1911 Zeenut wantlists and I'll share results that I find for all those participating....I think I might make a post on the main board as well so we can quit hijacking poor Ben's original thread ...sorry about that Ben, at least we bumped your wantlist all afternoon though

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Posted By: Bob

Agnew
Akin
Arrelanes
Arlett
Bernard
Bohen
Browning
Burrell
Carlisle
Carman
Couchman
Cutsaw
Driscoll
French
Fullerton
Halla
Harkness
Hosp
Kerns
Kilroy
Knight
Lalonge
Lerchen
Leverenz
Lewis
Lindsay
Madden
McCredie
McKune
Melchior
Miller
Mitze
Mohler
Noyes
Pearce
Peckinpaugh
Pfyl
Rapps
Rodgers
Ryan SF
Seaton
Shinn
Stewart
Stinson
Tennant
Thomas
Vitt
Weaver
Zamloch

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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

When I put together my "catcher pose" subset of the 1911 Zeenuts last year, the last one I needed of the twelve catcher poses was Chester Thomas. I noticed that both Tbob and Steve need that card.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqzw1e/thevintagecatcher/>

Patrick

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Posted By: leon

I like the subject and actually sold an E136 to Tbob this evening...I wish this thread was on the main forum....good info...

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

It actually has been restarted on the mainforum. Currently about a third of the way down the page....

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

Agnew
Arellanes
Arlett
Barry
Baum
Berry
Bohen
Brown
Browning
Burrell
Byram
Carson
Criger
Danzig
Dillon
Discoll
Driscoll
Dulin
Fanning
French
Fullerton
Gleason
Halla
Heitmuller
Henley
Hetling
Hoffman
Hosp
Kerns
Knight
LaLonge
Lerchen
Lindsay
Madden
Mahoney
Martinoni
McCredie
McKune
Melchoir
Miller
Mitze
Moore
Murray
Noyes
Patterson
Pearce
Peckinpaugh
Pfyl
Rapps
Ryan Box
Ryan No Box
Ryan SF
Seaton
Sheehan
Smith LA
Smith SF
Stinson
Tennant
Thomas
Vitt
Weaver
Zamloch

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Posted By: Bob

Peter- Larry Fritsch has only 2 Zeenuts left and one of them is a Patterson Vernon, sounds like vgex over the phone. Decent price, you might want to give him a call if you need it.
Bob

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

Thanks Bob, got it.