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Posted By: <b>Ben Y.</b><p>I am looking to buy or trade for these 1911 Zeenuts.<br />They are some of the cards that I need, to try and<br />get real close to finishing the set.<br />If there are any plain old collectors out there,any<br />help would be greatly appreciated. I have been working on this, for at least 6 years.<br />Please send scans to my Email address. Beesweb2006@yahoo.com<br />Thank you,<br />Ben<br />1.Agnew<br />2.Arlett<br />3.Bohen<br />4.Brown<br />5.Carson<br />6.Delmas<br />7.McKune<br />8.Raleigh<br />9.Smith LA.

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>Sorry that I can not help with any of those cards, but I do have a question for those with more complete sets than mine. I have 63 different cards or 50% of the set. If these cards are equally scarce as the guides indicate - then the chance that I would not have 1 of these cards is 2 in 1000 or .2% - so I think that some cards are rarer at this point in time. Weather they were at issue is another matter. Maybe the cards are from less popular teams or players at the time of issue and disappeared rapidly after issue. Any thoughts?

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p>Peter, great question - I'm kind of curious about this myself and have wondered this same thing about a number of other sets (ie...t209, d311, 1909 Obaks...etc..)<br /><br />I haven't been going after this set nearly as long as Ben or others so I wouldn't be a good at identifying the "Set toughies". I know of the three players which are well-known to be notoriously tough in this set. There is a fourth card that I feel will be tough as more of us get a little closer to completion as there is a descendent of this player collecting his cards. <br /><br />One observation is that many cards that I need (I need 11 to finish off the set) are not the same ones that others need. Out of the 11 I still need, Steve Murray has 8 of them oddly enough. Out of the 9 Ben needs above, I have 7 of them. This would lead me to believe that while there are 3-5 set toughies, many of the cards Ben and I still need are certainly attainable<br /><br />Your observation about the different teams is also a good one. I haven't noticed any difficulty gathering cards for specific teams though in the Z11 set. The 11 cards I still need are scattered pretty evenly across several teams and I believe the same can be said about the 9 players Ben needs. However, team scarcity does come into play in other sets such as d311. I've heard a few people say that Sacramento players seem to be a little tougher to find in that particular issue and out of the seven cards I still need to complete the d311 set, 5 of them are indeed Sacramento players. <br /><br />Hope this helps a bit....

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Posted By: <b>Andy Cook</b><p>Ben, I have a Raleigh (small pose) at <a href="http://members.aol.com/typecard/trade.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://members.aol.com/typecard/trade.html</a> Andy

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>What with Brian (not you Shammus)snarfing all of the Miller cards I had to settle on this dog:<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1163874393.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>I would be happy to take that beater off your hands, Steve <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Actually Brian I kind of really like the card, warts and all.

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>I agree. I don't care too much about condition.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I think what you guys need to do is resign yourselves to the fact you'll never complete the set and sell your cards to those of us who are working on the set (1911 Zs) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Arlett is the 4th toughest card in the set and since Weaver is collected because of who he is and Halla is so tough because he is a horizontal card, I think he is really #2 behind Bohen.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>are you saying:<br /><br />1. Bohen<br />2. Halla<br />3. Weaver<br />4. Arlett<br /><br />If so do we put Peckinpaugh No. 5?<br /><br />Do we put the "box" cards in the mix? At least in the top 10 I would imagine.

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p>I'd lean towards agreeing with TBob here. Weaver and Peckinpaugh really aren't all that scarce/tough in my opinion. They do carry a premium because of what happened later on with their careers and that makes them more desireable, not necessarily scarce. I've seen Halla cards pop up from time to time and I know where a couple might be right now. Arlett I'm not sure about although I do see that, aside from Bohen, that is the only card that Ben and I both need. As for Bohen, I did hear a story about the Bohen card being removed from production (ala t206 Wagner) so that could be the reason for that card's scarcity. I don't really believe the theory about Bohen's card being scarce because he was Jewish because Bohen's 1912 Zeenut seems to be pretty readily available.<br /><br />What we all need to do is compare lists of the cards we're still needing. Then we can slot those as the true set toughies <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Here is the complete list. I consider the set complete at 122 cards. Cut and paste those that you have leaving what you need:<br /><br /><br />Abbott <br />Ables<br />Agnew<br />Akin<br />Arellanes<br />Arlett<br />Barry<br />Baum<br />Bernard<br />Berry<br />Bohen<br />Brackenridge<br />Brashear<br />Brown<br />Browning<br />Burrell<br />Byram<br />Byram<br />Carlisle<br />Carman<br />Carson<br />Castleton<br />Chadbourne<br />Christian<br />Couchman<br />Coy<br />Criger<br />Cutsaw<br />Daley<br />Danzig<br />Delhi<br />Delmas<br />Dillon<br />Discoll<br />Driscoll<br />Dulin<br />Fanning<br />Fitzgerald<br />Flater<br />French<br />Fullerton<br />Gleason<br />Gregory<br />Halla<br />Heitmuller<br />Henley<br />Hetling<br />Hiester<br />Hitt<br />Hoffman<br />Hogan<br />Holland<br />Hosp<br />Howard<br />Kane<br />Kerns<br />Kilroy<br />Knight<br />Koestner<br />Krueger<br />Kuhn<br />LaLonge<br />Lerchen<br />Leverenz<br />Lewis<br />Lindsay<br />Lober<br />Madden<br />Maggert <br />Mahoney<br />Martinoni<br />McArdle<br />McCredie<br />McDonnell<br />McKune<br />Meikle<br />Melchoir<br />Metzger<br />Miller<br />Mitze<br />Mohler<br />Moore<br />Moskiman<br />Murray <br />Naylor<br />Nebinger<br />Nourse<br />Noyes<br />O'Rourke<br />Patterson<br />Patterson Oak<br />Pearce<br />Peckinpaugh<br />Pernoll <br />Pfyl<br />Powell<br />Raleigh<br />Rapps<br />Rodgers<br />Ryan Box<br />Ryan No Box<br />Ryan SF<br />Seaton<br />Shaw<br />Sheehan<br />Shinn<br />Smith LA<br />Smith SF<br />Steen<br />Stewart<br />Stinson<br />Sutor<br />Tennant<br />Thomas<br />Thompson<br />Thornton<br />Tiedeman<br />Van Buren<br />Vitt<br />Wares<br />Weaver<br />Wolverton<br />Zacher<br />Zamloch<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><br />Agnew<br />Akin<br />Arlett<br />Baum<br />Bernard<br />Berry<br />Bohen<br />Brashear<br />Brown<br />Browning<br />Carlisle<br />Carman<br />Carson<br />Christian<br />Cutsaw<br />Danzig<br />Delhi<br />Delmas<br />Dillon<br />Discoll<br />Driscoll<br />Dulin<br />Fanning<br />Fullerton<br />Gleason<br />Halla<br />Heitmuller<br />Henley<br />Hetling<br />Holland<br />Hosp<br />Howard<br />Kilroy<br />Knight<br />Krueger<br />LaLonge<br />Lewis<br />Lindsay<br />McArdle<br />McCredie<br />McKune<br />Meikle<br />Melchoir<br />Metzger<br />Noyes<br />Patterson Oak<br />Pfyl<br />Rapps<br />Ryan Box<br />Ryan No Box<br />Ryan SF<br />Seaton<br />Shaw<br />Shinn<br />Smith LA<br />Smith SF<br />Steen<br />Stewart<br />Stinson<br />Thomas<br />Thompson<br />Thornton<br />Tiedeman<br />Van Buren<br />Vitt<br />Zamloch<br />

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p><br />I think I'm going to start an Excel spreadsheet....it will make this easier to track...anyone who is interested may send me your 1911 Zeenut wantlists and I'll share results that I find for all those participating....I think I might make a post on the main board as well so we can quit hijacking poor Ben's original thread <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>...sorry about that Ben, at least we bumped your wantlist all afternoon though <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Agnew<br />Akin<br />Arrelanes<br />Arlett<br />Bernard<br />Bohen<br />Browning<br />Burrell<br />Carlisle<br />Carman<br />Couchman<br />Cutsaw<br />Driscoll<br />French<br />Fullerton<br />Halla<br />Harkness<br />Hosp<br />Kerns<br />Kilroy<br />Knight<br />Lalonge<br />Lerchen<br />Leverenz<br />Lewis<br />Lindsay<br />Madden<br />McCredie<br />McKune<br />Melchior<br />Miller<br />Mitze<br />Mohler<br />Noyes<br />Pearce<br />Peckinpaugh<br />Pfyl<br />Rapps<br />Rodgers<br />Ryan SF<br />Seaton <br />Shinn<br />Stewart<br />Stinson<br />Tennant<br />Thomas<br />Vitt<br />Weaver<br />Zamloch<br />

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Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>When I put together my "catcher pose" subset of the 1911 Zeenuts last year, the last one I needed of the twelve catcher poses was Chester Thomas. I noticed that both Tbob and Steve need that card. <br /><br /><a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqzw1e/thevintagecatcher/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqzw1e/thevintagecatcher/</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqzw1e/thevintagecatcher/</a</a>><br /><br />Patrick

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I like the subject and actually sold an E136 to Tbob this evening...I wish this thread was on the main forum....good info...

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p><br />It actually has been restarted on the mainforum. Currently about a third of the way down the page....

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>Agnew<br />Arellanes<br />Arlett<br />Barry<br />Baum<br />Berry<br />Bohen<br />Brown<br />Browning<br />Burrell<br />Byram<br />Carson<br />Criger<br />Danzig<br />Dillon<br />Discoll<br />Driscoll<br />Dulin<br />Fanning<br />French<br />Fullerton<br />Gleason<br />Halla<br />Heitmuller<br />Henley<br />Hetling<br />Hoffman<br />Hosp<br />Kerns<br />Knight<br />LaLonge<br />Lerchen<br />Lindsay<br />Madden<br />Mahoney<br />Martinoni<br />McCredie<br />McKune<br />Melchoir<br />Miller<br />Mitze<br />Moore<br />Murray<br />Noyes<br />Patterson<br />Pearce<br />Peckinpaugh<br />Pfyl<br />Rapps<br />Ryan Box<br />Ryan No Box<br />Ryan SF<br />Seaton<br />Sheehan<br />Smith LA<br />Smith SF<br />Stinson<br />Tennant<br />Thomas<br />Vitt<br />Weaver<br />Zamloch<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Peter- Larry Fritsch has only 2 Zeenuts left and one of them is a Patterson Vernon, sounds like vgex over the phone. Decent price, you might want to give him a call if you need it.<br />Bob

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>Thanks Bob, got it.<br /><br />