Pete Rose passed away

[FrankWakefield]

Pete Rose has passed away.

A fierce, determined competitor. I wish his family well.








(NOT a thread for advocating Pete into or out of the HOF)

[Belfast1933]

Wow, shocker… lots of complicated feelings right now, as a fan of the game.

[ullmandds]

Was just going through a box last night and I stumbled across a sheet with maybe 8 pete rose autographs on it...he DID sign everything and anything. RIP to one of baseballs all time greats!

[bmattioli]

RIP.. always loved Rose..

[Brian Van Horn]

Rip.

[Kidnapped18]

RIP Pete! One of the All-Time Greats!

[dealme]

In my opinion, he epitomized the way the game was meant to be played. Sad to hear of his passing.


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[robinsonmantle]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...leader-dies-83

Will he now get into the hall of fame?


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[BioCRN]

Originally Posted by robinsonmantle

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...leader-dies-83

Will he now get into the hall of fame?

We call it a "lifetime ban" but it's more like an "ineligible list" and there's lots of dead guys on it.

The HOF isn't a pure place and I wouldn't care if he got in, but MLB has a lot of rules and Rule 21 is the one that's posted in every clubhouse.

[refz]

Rip Pete

Hopefully someday ..

[theshowandme]

Headline story on ESPN, CBS Sports, Fox Sports

MLB.com = nothing

It’s been almost an hour since the news broke on Twitter

[JollyElm]

And now every single one of my eBay searches is packed with newly-today-listed Pete Rose cards. God, I hate people.

Rest in peace, Mr. Hustle. You taught an entire generation how to play ball by leaving it all on the field.

[V117collector]

RIP to Pete Rose! A real cool guy...

[bigfanNY]

Rest in Peace Mr Rose.

[doug.goodman]

Lifelong Dodger fan.

Life long Pete Rose fan.

We hated the "Big Red Machine" but individually how could you not love those guys?


Here is his MLB debut...

[h2oya311]

RIP Charlie Hustle!

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

And now every single one of my eBay searches is packed with newly-today-listed Pete Rose cards. God, I hate people.

Not to mention that there's already one here in the B/S/T forum.

[GasHouseGang]

Maybe MLB isn't as against gambling as they used to be.

I remember in 1976 when Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were banned from Major League Baseball (MLB) by then-commissioner Bowie Kuhn for their association with casinos. Their duties included playing in golf tournaments with casino customers and appearing at public functions for the hotel. In 1985, commissioner Peter Ueberroth reinstated Mantle and Mays. Ueberroth said he made an exception for them because they were "two of the most beloved and admired athletes in the country today".

Press release March2, 2023: "As fans eagerly await the return of baseball, Major League Baseball (MLB) and FanDuel Group, the premier online gaming company in North America, today announced a multi-year partnership making its industry-leading sportsbook a co-exclusive Official Sports Betting Partner of MLB."

[BioCRN]

MLB is still banning players for betting on baseball, even this season, multiple players, one permanently.

MLB has lots of rules, but Rule 21 is specifically in every single MLB clubhouse.

It's kinda crazy we live in a world where there's more professional sports leagues than ever to bet on and baseball players still choose to break the barrier of the one thing that's specifically printed out and displayed in every home and away clubhouse in the game.

They can go Michael Jordan style in all the casinos they want. They can bet their entire paycheck on football or basketball or curling or synchronized swimming in any legally approved market/venue if they want.

There's one thing off-limits and it's been clearly stated for many decades. They walk by this reminder a few hundred times a year.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Press release March2, 2023: "As fans eagerly await the return of baseball, Major League Baseball (MLB) and FanDuel Group, the premier online gaming company in North America, today announced a multi-year partnership making its industry-leading sportsbook a co-exclusive Official Sports Betting Partner of MLB."

Now I'm not arguing that Pete Rose should be admitted to the Baseball Hall of Fame. In truth I don't give a damn. But hypocrites they are at MLB.

[Steve D]

Disturbing report here, about Pete being turned away at a hospital five days before he died:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...776f6151&ei=14


Steve

[Balticfox]

I like Pete Rose's competitive spirit and the way he always played to win.This was fully exemplified in the 1970 All Star Game when he scored the game winning run for the National League:

Pete Rose Winning Run - 1970 All Star Game

He was quoted as saying after the game "Nobody told me they changed it to girls’ softball between third and home.” Contrast Pete Rose's play in the game against the way present day players treat it as a friendly exhibition against their union buddies.

[cornhusker]

We were fortunate to meet several of the Big Red Machine at a show in Baltimore years ago. All 3 of these guys were a hoot and chatted with us a bit. Pete was a childhood hero of mine due to that aggressive play.
My son and daughter got one of our "cave wall" pics signed at the show. I bet these guys had a blast playing together thru the '70's. Unfortunately, only Johnny is left.

[GeoPoto]

Final slide. IMG_20240929_125949036_HDR.jpg

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[GRock]

Loved watching Pete play and loved watching videos of him talking baseball.

The guy had it in his blood, 100%.

RIP Pete

[perezfan]

Awesome early Rose pieces, Doug and Derek!!!

Really enjoyed seeing the first-ever Rose Scorecard and those early images of Pete. I love his earlier/rarer "puffy" signature.

Oh yeah, and Manfred is a piece of sh!t

Signed,
Mark Steinberg

[pclpads]

Whenever I think of Pete Rose, I think of the word "Karma" . . . and Bart Giamatti. Shortly after giving Pete his lifetime banishment, old Bart dropped dead of a heart attack. He may have blocked PR from the HOF, but Pete got the last laugh, outliving Bart by some 35 years.

[tlhss]

Every thread needs a well-loved card. RIP Pete ...

[allendalemark9]

Rip Pete rose your good works will never be forgotten legend.

[BioCRN]

Some people are pining for a HOF nod now that Pete has passed, but having the Wander Franco trial starting is bad timing on top of bad timing.

I don't think anyone is ready to have a Pete HOF discussion under the shadow of that going on.

Maybe further down the line...maybe not.

[Huck]

Good quick read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ll-great-dead/

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Huck

Good quick read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ll-great-dead/

Extra quick with the paywall... hahaha

[Huck]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Extra quick with the paywall... hahaha

Sorry, I didn't think about the paywall issue.

[Balticfox]

Ty Cobb's career hit record of 4191 had stood for 57 years when Pete Rose broke it in 1985. The irony here is twofold. Pete Rose was the "modern" day player whose competitive drive was most like Ty Cobb's. And if alive Ty Cobb would have been the last person to congratulate Pete Rose for breaking his record. Ty Cobb would have just sneered.

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Ty Cobb's career hit record of 4191 had stood for 57 years when Pete Rose broke it in 1985. The irony here is twofold. Pete Rose was the "modern" day player whose competitive drive was most like Ty Cobb's. And if alive Ty Cobb would have been the last person to congratulate Pete Rose for breaking his record. Ty Cobb would have just sneered.

I don’t know how you could possibly know that. If you deduce that from Al Stump’s biography, it’s apparently less than truthful.

[Balticfox]

Much exaggerated you say? You mean that I have to give up another one of my anti-heroes? Who's left then?

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by allendalemark9

Rip Pete rose your good works will never be forgotten legend.

A word to the wise. Allendalemark9 was banned mere hours after saying something nice about a Cincinnati Red. The rest of us can take that as a warning I guess.

[bk400]

I really enjoyed watching Pete Rose play as a kid. Even gave myself a bunch of strawberries from emulating his headfirst slide. But I was really shocked and sad to learn that he bet on baseball. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I support the ban and, separately, don't think he should be enshrined in the Hall of Fame.

[Casey2296]

Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.

+1

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.

I agree it is inconsistent for sure. But two wrongs don't make a right. I'd love to see the gambling sponsorships gone from the game. There is nothing socially positive or redeeming about having the gambling industry as a sanctioned partner of MLB or, frankly, any sport.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.

But Joe Jackson was involved in actually throwing World Series games. Pete Rose on the other hand always played full out to win.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.

What I find most troubling, in fact maddening, is the hypocrisy. Yes, MLB was correct. Any association, any link, between pro sports and gambling threatens the integrity of the game. Case closed.

But many/most governments across North America have legalized whatever forms of gambling from which they can derive a piece of the action (but of course only those). And now given the sanction of politicians and the bureaucrats living off the taxpayers' dime, pro sports have followed suit. If Big Brother says gambling is fine, then it's now fine with pro sports leagues (provided that they can get a piece of the action of course).

But what about "the integrity of the game"? I guess that's no longer a concern so long as Big Brother and pro sports can derive their piece of the action from an activity they previously castigated. Like I say, it's the hypocrisy that's galling.

[kcohen]

Many of us on this forum obviously met him. I’ve never heard about him being anything other than gracious.

I for one would like to see him enshrined. After all, what is the Hall of Fame? A museum.