Question on value and year?????

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Posted By: Anonymous

Dear Baseball Card Guys,

My husbands grandmother died about a year ago, needless to say all of the family ended up with some of her stuff. We ended up with a box full of old newspapers, pictures etc. In the box we found these old baseball cards, we know there old but not exactly how old. Most all of them have names and read Piedmont and Sweet Capporal on the one has no back.We found this site via the web and ope you dont mind us asking?? Anyhow we ware thinking of selling the cards on ebay soon to offset (Wedding Bills!!!!) and would like to know what we should ask for the cards and expect, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

April Parkerqus

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Posted By: Anonymous

Duh had my husband add picture, sorry so bad at this junk.

April

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

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Posted By: Denny

Greetings April,
Funny...My Wife's name is April Luv that name! Anyways, If you'll email me at irishdenny@satx.rr.com, I would like to talk with you about your cards. To answer your Question though, without being graded by a 3rd party Company, or seein the backs(Are they clean Backs? ie.. No Stains, markings, etc...?) They would probably go for 30 - 60 bucks each, except the one I'm interested in, the one with the Cross hair markings, thats probably the one with nothing on the back!? It's a Printer Scrap, Proof. I wait for your email!

Life's Grand,
Denny

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Posted By: David Smith

Uh, are you guys sure this isn't an "APRIL" Fool's Day prank??

I mean, "found in Grandma's stuff". A proof T206 card and the posters name is April???

This could be legit, but.......


David


PS, Yes, I am that sceptical about most everything.

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Posted By: Dan Kravitz

Hi April- This is an easy one. You now know what you have and what it's worth. DO NOT have these graded. You will spend more on grading than the cards are worth. The people who are interested in your cards (if sold on Ebay), will know they are real. The trick is to sell them in the right catagory... Home> Buy> Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop> Cards> Baseball-MLB> Singles (Pre-1930).. The auction will determine true value.
Good luck, and by the way, lose the attic and Grandma story. It won't play well with your audience.

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Posted By: April

You guys are quick Thanks! Thought I'd check before I went to bed. Thanks for all info, wow 1909 that is old. I will also note not to mention his grandmother...is that a bad thing??? Does it make a differance they came from her closet not attic, LOL just kidding.

thanks again,

April

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Posted By: Joe D.

wow... you guys are up late! (or west coast)?

April,

the one on the bottom right.. the proof. That is the most intriguing card in the bunch (very intriguing). The others are fairly common.

Good luck.


edit: because my original response might have come off the wrong way.

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Posted By: Scot Reader

All kidding aside, does anyone know who's depicted in the proof?

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Posted By: Joe D.

I don't know...

but I have someone in mind.

are you thinking what I am thinking?

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Well I just dug out my little box of white border cards... there is not one with the pose of that proof card.

Zach Wheat was in 20 games in 1909, and 156 in 1910. Joe Jackson was in 5 games in 1908, 5 in 1909, 20 in 1910, and 147 in 1911. Jackson's not in enough games in 1910 to make the 460 series in T206.


So my thinking is that April's proof card there is of Joe Jackson, and it may well have a series 550 back. I wonder which factory. Maybe she could scan the back for us.

Happy new year.

Frank

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Posted By: MVSNYC

guys MUST be an april fools...

the "proof" card on the lower right is none other than the unissued, always dreamed about, Shoeless Joe Jackson...whoever did this is very creative...

there might be a .00000001% chance that this post is real.

most likely "April Fool's"...BUT, if not, i will get in line like the rest of the guys, and would be willing to pay very handsomely for it...


regards,
michael sarno

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Posted By: Joann

Mike Mike Mike. You got it all wrong. I'm disappointed in you. Clearly this is Jim Thorpe. You know, the early days!! lololol

Good one, someone. Good one.

J

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Posted By: barrysloate

I know it's April Fool's Day, but if that is a joke that is some fine photoshopping. And why do we assume it's Jackson? It's certainly not a perfect likeness of him.

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Posted By: David Vargha

Well, April's last name of "Parkerqus" is certainly interesting. In all of the gazillions of Internet pages, Google can't find one instance of it. It's definitely a good April Fool's joke.

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: dennis

if that proof card was joe jackson and it was authenticated ,no one on this board could afford it. the big aution houses would pay you to sell it. and april you would be very very rich.....april fools!

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Barry....

That proof card looks like my Jackson. What does your Jackson look like?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Frank- did you ask me what my Johnson looks like...oh, I'm sorry, you were asking about my Jackson.

Hey, for the record I sent this April an email this morning and told her I would like to auction it for her. I figured there was a 50-50 chance it was a joke, but the worst thing that could happen is I would look silly. That's a small price to pay for the chance the card was real.

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Posted By: Joann

I think it is a very, very good April Fool's joke. Well thought out and constructed.

But I'm far from sure, and will continue to watch this thread with interest just in case. I have no clue who the person is or is supposed to be. Does the same image appear anywhere else in vintage cards?

Joann

ETA: Actually, I think I might be more hopeful that it is an AF joke than not. Because if it is, it's really art. Putting a proof among scans of commons was great. Much more subtle that way.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

barry- you asked... "And why do we assume it's Jackson? It's certainly not a perfect likeness of him."

...that image is based on a photo of him, that i have seen before...plus i do think it looks like him, big ears and all...

but, most likely, joke's on us.

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Posted By: Joe D.

glad you all said it before I did.

That looks like shoeless joe to me, I just didn't want to be the first to say it.

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Posted By: leon

Hey Guys,
It may sound too good to be true but I did email and speak with April today. I think these might be on the up and up....She said she wanted to do ebay...I convinced her (hi April) to let us auction them from the board....At the end she will send them to me...I will make sure they get authenticated by SGC and we can continue to do the deal. These things look to be fantastic. If you don't think these are real that is fine...but they look to be good to me....let the auction continue....

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Posted By: Matt

darn good photoshop indeed...if a joke

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Guys...

Leon thinks April is sincere. Barry is willing to help her sell the stuff, and he wouldn't sell anything that was doubtful.

The proof card looks like my Jackson Piedmont 550. I think that's what it is. Has to be. But I've only seen the regular cards, not a proof.

Here's the back of my Jackson.

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Posted By: Josh Adams

Frank,

Can you post a scan of the front? would love to see the resemblence.
Thanks!
Josh

Go Go White Sox
2005 World Series Champions!

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Posted By: joe brennan

Leon!! I thought you were too old to be in on a joke that would string the whole board along. Good one and happy April Fools to you too.

In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Yes sir, I can... but you have to wait. It's at the bank. And I can't get it Monday, I'm going to Cincy for my Opening Day pilgrimage. I just happened to have a scan of the back on my old pc.

But it looks just like that proof card above, only without the lines, and with "Jackson, Cleveland Amer." at the bottom of the front. My recollection is that the image has a tiny scratch across the top left-hand corner. Barry's Jackson card has a better image. See if he'll scan his.

Ted Z had a tough time finishing his Piedmont only set... took him a while to get all of the 550s. Partly due to rarity. And partly because they're always found in nice shape. The later series usually aren't found as worn as the 150s. And the nicer condition drives price up. Old Ted is still fuming about what he had to pay for a couple of them.

Frank.

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Posted By: martindl

What a hoot! You guys are a riot - Leon and Barry are just a little too willing on this one.

Try reading April's surname backwards, slowly.

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Posted By: Steve M.

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Check your telephone dial:

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mno O
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mno O
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jkl L
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pqrs S
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Well done poster

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Posted By: Joann

I feel like a moron here. I already tried the surname backwards thing when it was first posted and didn't get anything. What'd I miss?

And if both Leon and Barry are in on the AF, then it's all the better.

J

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Posted By: David Vargha

Great catch, Steve!

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: Matt

No shocker, but I'd still like to know who did the photoshop...it is good...

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Posted By: MVSNYC

let's have some fun here anyway...

what would this card fetch, IF it were real?

my guess: $100,000+

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Posted By: martindl

Joann,

s-u-q-r-e = sucker

k-r-a-p = crap

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Posted By: Josh Adams

Thanks, Frank.

And I wonder who the real poster is?
Go Go White Sox
2005 World Series Champions!

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Posted By: dennis

what would this card fetch, IF it were real? $2 million+

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Posted By: Joann

Thanks Martin. lol - guess I did need it spelled out for me this time.

J

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Posted By: Paul

I just read the whole thread now, from start to finish. What a riot! I think Leon is April. I don't think Leon would persuade a novice to auction a potential million dollar card on this board.

Absolutely terrific photo shop work. I didn't make the Joe Jackson connection initially, but was wondering how in the world a single proof could end up in an attic find.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Well, I have an extraordinary story to share with everyone on the board, and I don't even know where to begin.

I know today is April Fool's day, and I realize this story seems too good to be true. But I have to tell everyone that April does exist, that she does have these baseball cards, and that if it authenticates it will be the highlight lot of my June auction. Sometimes stories defy the imagination, and this is one of them.

When I woke up early this morning and saw this post, I immediately emailed her. I too was skeptical but she got back to me and sounded perfectly legitimate. The first thing I said to her is that it is not unusual to find a group of T206's that are still in a family's possession, but the appearance of any printer's proof would be. Then she told me exactly what I was hoping to hear- that her husband's grandfather spent his life in the printing business and that these cards originated from him. We continued talking, I directed her to my website, and she became very excited about the prospect of auctioning the card.

I called a very close friend of mine in the Virginia area who has collected tobacco cards for years, and asked him if he knew the town she lived in, and said it was about forty minutes from him. I asked him if he was willing to drive over there today (of course with the promise of a hefty finder's fee) and he got there about 11:00 this morning. He called me shortly thereafter and confirmed that everything about it was consistent with how a T206 should look- color, paper stock, etc.

At this moment we are in possession of this card and it will arrive here on Tuesday. I will immediately head out to SGC to have it authenticated. If it passes muster, and so far it looks like it will, it will be the highlight of my upcoming June auction.

This has been a whirlwind day and my heart is going at double speed. If all works, this will be the greatest find I have ever made. I think it is one of these situations where sometimes something that looks too good to be true may actually be true. Please all wish me luck. I will keep you posted.

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Posted By: Steve M.

you will excuse me but your story is bull****.

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Posted By: MikeB

I wonder how many people on this board are nearly
100% sure that this is a joke, but have tried to contact
either Leon or Barry, or both just to make sure>

Mike

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

You know that with a white pages.com search, there are no Parkerqus names listed in virginia......Hoax I would believe.

Ken

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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

Barry - You almost had me until you said that you would take the card to SGC yourself-- everyone knows that you're not permitted to leave the State of New York. Oh yeah, that and the "we" thing.
Big props all the way around on this one, y'all.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

barry- very entertaining...

nice of you to play along...BUT, you lost me at "i had a friend drive there.....etc".

this would obviosuly be one of the greatest finds ever (not yours by the way barry)...i highly doubt this would happen in 2007, on april fool's day.

barry- at the very most, you can auction off the photoshop print-out.

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Posted By: Darren

I have a T213-3 of Ruth.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hey Josh,

I found a scan of the front of my Jackson, Piedmont 550 card on an old computer. I can make a better scan in a few days when I get the card out of the bank, if you like.


And it looks like it's the card that was made from that proof card in the original post.

Most of the Piedmont 550s I know of, and all of the ones I have, came from the Monkeys Eyebrow find several years ago. Monkeys Eyebrow is a tiny little town in western Kentucky, just west of Paducah. It is in Ballard County, near the Ohio River. Here's a Mapquest link:
<a href="http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=monkeys+eyebrow&state=ky&zipcode=#east</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=monkeys+eyebrow&state=ky&zipcode=#east</a&gt;

I know that's a lot to cut and paste, sorry.

The Monkeys Eyebrow find had bunches of E270s, both red and tin top. A goodly stash of T210s, those beautiful red border cards, all were series 6, the Bluegrass League, as could be expected. The old gentleman had a bunch of Kitty League post cards... and then about 200 T206 series 550 cards, all Piedmont. He even had a few still in the packs! Some dealers up north swooped down on the fellow. Mr. Mint didn't make it there, he stayed the night at Metropolis, a bit to the west. I'm guessing the gambling boats attracted him, but maybe Mr. Mint is a big Superman fan... either way, the cards were gone before Mr. Mint arrived.

Barry, Leon, are either of you aware of Piedmont 550s being found anywhere else???

Frank.

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Posted By: Joe D.

she has a photobucket site
http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/abonmot/?

looks like I better head to virginia before you guys do.

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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

I think I know where I want to spend next halloween.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Barry,
I'm just mad you didn't send me to secure the card.....

I thought we were friends? I want my keys back....


Be well Brian

PS It's a beautiful day here in VA.... just outside of Galax..