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Dave SCSA is in London, OHIO and I believe only PSA has been around longer. I used them alot before SGC opened, always got fast service and always willing to discuss anything at length on the phone. Think they had a bit of an identity problem in that they were always looking to change (not necessarily improve) the appearance of their slabs. Went to a really ugly blue thing years ago, then changed that to the newer report-card type slabs. I know there are a few skeptics on here, but personally I never had a problem crossing any of their cards, and I broke quite a few out of those blue tanks!