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Originally Posted by G1911
Judge will win easily and I would probably vote for him.
I am not convinced that he actually had more value than Ohtani though.
211 OPS+ vs a 145 OPS+ and being one of the best pitchers in baseball and an ERA+ of 172.
Is Judge really better than a star hitter who is also one of the best pitchers? I can see it either way, they have to be close.
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Agreed. Ohtani's numbers are unreal. He'll probably finish 2nd in Cy Young and would finish with MVP votes if he never threw an inning given those offensive numbers. But he did win last year, and I believe there's a slight bias against back-to-back awards. Judge's numbers are also certainly MVP worthy though.
It is interesting to imagine what the sentiment would be if those players put up the exact same numbers but played for each other's teams. I would expect the Yankees to still make the playoffs and likely win the division comfortably and also expect that the Angels would miss the playoffs, 62 HRs etc notwithstanding.
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