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Old 05-12-2009, 10:21 AM
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Joe P.
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Just my opinion, of course, but I believe there are many skilled people out there taking creases and wrinkles out of cards, flattening corners, and even trimming and that a not insubstantial percentage of these cards are, for whatever reason (beyond the subject of this post), getting past the major grading services. I think this happens across the board and is not confined to higher grade cards.
Peter, thank you for your response.
Your point is valid, and true, but you must also agree that the point and subject of my post, is based on the fact that some dealers back in 1990 were alerted, and told about a malignant growth in the hobby/business ... Dr Koos (Danny Dupchek).

Mark Macrae flew down from California, and I from NYC.
We met at the Texas national, and the first thing that hits us, is a dealer that has a Dupchek special on his table ... we find out that he obtained it from another dealer at the show ... It took us a long time to convince the dealer that the card was not Kosher ... because it looked good to him ... now where have we heard that before? ... He eventually got his money back.

Peter, you mention cards of extreme rarity, and higher grade cards.
You may have missed Scot Reader's post of 2006.
In it, he tells about an encounter with Dr Koos back in 2003.
The Koos creations that he speaks about ... the T206 Bell, Ewing and Mattern.
Extreme rarities they're not.

The point of this thread is:
Back in 1990, Macrae, and a collector, with the great support of Lew Lipset, Larry Fritsch, my couselor Herman Kaufman (BTW, recommended to me by Bill Mastro at a Parrsipany NJ show in 1990.)

I got my money back ... but getting the money back was NOT enough.
Computers were not in fashion then ... so I went to Texas.

I get PO'd, when some one messes with MY HOBBY!

Peter, thanks again for your response.
Joe
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