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Originally Posted by bnorth
Most of them are BB cards because they are cheaper for the guy at home making them. If I can hold it in hand I can pretty much tell you how the person made them. I have a stack of them made many different ways I have purchased over the years and I highly doubt a single one left Fleer that way.
I have seen unopened packs with even the silly rare versions showing. I have never seen anything with a whiteout version showing. I have opened a ton of 89 Fleer and know many others who have also opened many many cases of it and nobody I know has ever personally found one.
I do have one real whiteout story but it was really whiteout over a FF version. My younger brother pulled it out of a pack when we opened some wax boxes back in the day. I seen him pull it and scratch the whiteout off the card. Other than that I pretty much call BS on all whiteouts.
All the scribble versions can easily be explained with how printing works
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I guess this is what confuses me still. Aside from the fact that whiteout variations can be faked easily, are the ones pulled from packs, like the one your younger brother pulled, other versions that Fleer workers applied whiteout or other substance over the bat knob -
OR - are some white versions printed on the card (scribble for example)? Or is it a mix of both? Most hobby write-ups at the time refer to it as something Fleer's people did in the factory, which seems very odd to me and something PSA would never slab.
More importantly, I am very interested in what Gilkeson was referring to as a 'white box' version, which he describes in the article as the same as the black box version but white. I have yet to see a copy of this offered for sale and have not seen it mentioned outside his write-up ca. 1989.