I agree with Exhibitman on most points- but I believe we can establish a timeline for when the photo was created…printed as a print. Ok we mainly agree that the image on the Jackie Robinson photo is from 1947, the possible year it was captured.
The question is, when was the photo made? (printed as a print) Therefore the question becomes can we use deductive reasoning…use logic to arrive at a logical conclusion as to when the print was made? That is to say establish a reasonable date the photo was created.
The known facts:
1- Photos with names on them just like the ones I have have been auctioned as Type 1, 2 and 3. We have one on this post: (Lot# 329: 1940's Grover Cleveland Alexander Type 2 News Service Photo.
What we know about the Grover Cleveland auction: The auction house describes the photo this way: “Mid-1920's image of Hall of Fame pitcher Grover Cleveland Alexander at the Cubs spring training facility on Catalina Island in California. Though the image hails from the 1920's this particular 6.5" x 8.5" print was developed during the 1940's and served as a "proof" for a company known as "National Sports Photos, Inc." National Sports Photos offered 8" x 10" glossy photo reproductions via mail order, complete with the athletes name added in a handwritten style.”
2-National Sports Photos offered 8" x 10" glossy photo reproductions via mail order, complete with the athletes name added in a handwritten style starting in the 1940s. This style of writing on the photos matches the style on the photos I have. We can then conclude the photos I have are National Sports Photos.
3- All the photos I have are of the same style and match the Grover Cleveland Alexander photo except the size. Many of the images on the photos I have are seen on different Baseball cards, Bond Bread, Berk Ross, Exhibit style cards, Mini strip cards (R423), just to name a few. These baseball cards match the photos I have, many down to the names on the cards, which are an exact match- Bond Bread cards come to mind.
4- Bond Bread cards were issued in 1947, does this mean that the photos were around then as well. Since the images are the same on the photos and the Bond Bread cards, would it be reasonable to conclude the images on the photos were made the same time as the 1947 Bond Bread cards.
5- Two examples of the photos I have that match Bond Bread cards are: Ted Willams and Johnny Van Der Meer. The two examples are on the cover of the National Sports Photos- catalog. See post #6. There is no date on the letter from the National Sports Photos malling. But we do see that the mailing for National Sports Photos cost 4 ½ cents to mail. We see a 3 cent stamp and 1 ½ cent stamp. But I notice the 3 cent stamp was - a special commemorative stamp: Issued in 1947.
The U.S. 3 Cents stamp-The Doctor # 949 was issued on June 9, 1947, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the founding of the American Medical Association. "The Doctor" stamp was sold for approximately 10 years from its initial release in 1947 until the introduction of the 4-cent stamp in 1958. We then can reasonably believe that the mailing for the National Sports Photos- catalog was issued circa 1947 - 1957. Advertising some photos from 1947, as seen on the cover of the catalog.
6- Information suggests many of the photos were made with names on them circa 1947, because again-we see the same images on the Bond Bread cards that came out in 1947. We then can believe that the photos I have were made 1947-1958. Knowing all the information would it not be reasonable to believe the Jackie Robinson photo could have been made in 1947 and no later than 1957. Conclusion the photos I have were taken 1930-1950, the photos were made (created) in 1947-1950s.
The information also suggests the Jackie Robinson photo has a good chance of being made the year it was taken 1947. Because it does match photos we can say were made in 1947, ie Ted Willams and John Van Der Meer. The odds are in fact better than the print being made in the 1950s. So how can anyone say what Type photo it is. Why would anyone judge the photo of Jackie Robinson on what Type it was, or any of the photos I have? John
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