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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley
Not interested in your take. Between my brother Rhys and I you would be hard pressed to find anyone on this planet that knows more about Sockalexis so I will take a hard pass. We both became fascinated by his story as young kids growing up in Old Town, Maine… where Sockalexis is from. You have a very myopic view of him and his accomplishments (or in your view the lack thereof) so I will not be engaging with you further on this.
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Okay then. I've seen and read lots of information on him, and have viewed his record and such with the Spiders. You just basically said I don't know what I'm talking about with no info, backup, or anything else to explain further. Yes, please don't worry about answering back.
But in response to what you said, remember this, the topic was concerning the naming of the "Cleveland" team! Not a team from Maine, nor one from where he played his college ball, or otherwise. As a life-long Clevelander myself, I can understand using his performance as a Cleveland team member to determine if they should honor him. I am sorry, but why should Cleveland have looked at anything other than his record while in Cleveland for such a determination? His record and situation while in Cleveland was absolutely horrible, and that it is arguably all that should have been relevant. Especially after the team was coming off being named after Lajoie, its manager and star player. Answer yourself this. Why would a team go from honoring a player of Lajoie's talent and record, by having been named after him, to immediately honoring someone with Sockalexis' team history and record? The quick answer is, no one in their right mind would.
Everything I said about him while in Cleveland and his performance as a Spider is factually true and accurate. I do concur with you though, and even said so myself, he was a tragic figure. But for purposes of determining his worth in supposedly honoring him by naming the team the Indians, I think it much more important and relevant to apply a "focused" view to his contributions to just the Cleveland franchise and city. And quite frankly, based on his actual performance and record as a Spider, he is not deserving. And your finding fault with that is what I consider as coming from a "myopic" point of view from you, not me.
And if you don't like what I was saying about him, be sure to not go looking up his story on the New England Historical Society site.