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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
I don't see Helton. I think Walker just made it despite the Coors Field thing but I don't see it happening twice.
I don't see Will Clark, to me quintessential Hall of Very Good.
Hernandez and Olerud, no way, agree with you. I don't even understand the support for Hernandez.
Delgado, yeah, interesting case, so is Beltran.
Votto, meh, not even 2000 hits yet, not feeling the love.
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I think Helton will end up in, only because of Larry Walker. I think he will get elected his tenth year or by an era committee at some point.
Beltran never 'felt like' a Hall of Famer to me, but his counting stats accumulated to where I thought his career value was going to put him in. No idea what happens now that his career ends in scandal. Will be interesting to see. I thought Lance Berkman from that Astro's team deserved a serious look as well, not saying he should be a yes but he merited much more than 1.2% of the vote and immediately disappearing from the ballot. Sabrmetrics have been kind to him as well.
Votto is heavily benefited by Sabrmetrics and walking constantly. As more and more of the writers adopt this mindset, I think he will end up making it assuming he doesn't hang on too long and kill his career rate stats. 18th in War, 9th in WAR 7, 15th in JAWS among 1B with everyone higher in the HOF, active or a steroid guy. I'm okay with him getting in, I'd probably vote for him on the strength of his OPS and On Base crowns.