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Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Nice catch Todd concerning Shawkey being identified in Type B cards as Manager. I was wondering why he was included since he stopped playing in 1927. So it seems like he was let go as manager of the Yankees shortly after the 1930 season ended. So perhaps the Type B cards were first issued in 1930, and then had a second run perhaps later in 1930 or in 1931.

And looking at the Old Cardboard site I realized that the Smead Jolley card with the print on border is not actually Type B, but Type D (because it does not have the white box).

Boy this set is more complicated than I imagined...I better back out before all of this freezes me up like a deer in the headlights.

Brian

Yes Brian, there is a lot that remains confusing about the R315 set. There were two printings of Type B&D, as is apparent from the two O’Douls that Dan showed at the beginning of this thread. You will find that several of the players can be found with their positions identified as “Fielder” on some cards and the specific position on others, and the font or typeset on that bottom line of position/team can vary somewhat in appearance and/or placement on the card. It may be that the original design of photo and info within the photo frame were produced and distributed, and then later other publishers printed the info below the photo on the bottom line.

Oddly, the set is now generally considered to have been issued in 1929-30, two years when Lefty O’Doul played in Philadelphia, but the R315 set manages to caption him as playing for his 1928 and 1931 teams only. Seems the set failed to catch the off-season 1928 trade and was quick to spot the off-season 1930 trade.