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ABbaby 02-03-2025 01:26 PM

1914 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson PSA 3 - Help Please!
 
Hello Fellow Collectors!

I have a 1914 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson and am looking for pricing advice since I don't really deal in 14's and can only find a couple similar sales outside of the grade I have, which is PSA 3.

It's really well centered and has strong color in my opinion. Also some great caramel staining in unobtrusive locations which I really like. Not too heavy into grading but from PSA grading descriptions I feel like this could be a good candidate for asking for a bump? Who knows, right?!

Other than that I wasn't sure what a fair asking price would be based on the market? I know 14's have become pretty scarce. And yes, I know if I offer for sale here that asking my potential buyers is perhaps a conflict of interest of sorts :).

I don't really want to talk to auction houses either since I don't want to go that route and from my experience, they tend to build up the hype and over estimate items most of the time when discussing consignment.

Any help is appreciated! Feel free to message me directly as well if you're more comfortable with that. I look forward to the feedback!

Steve

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=38216

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=38217

ullmandds 02-03-2025 01:29 PM

a picture is worth a thousand words.

perezfan 02-03-2025 01:36 PM

Fully agree.... Need an image in order to answer your questions.

ABbaby 02-03-2025 01:39 PM

You aren't seeing the images? I am in a browser and they seem to be displaying just fine! Let me try and troubleshoot I guess. They are in my photo album in my profile page perhaps I copied it incorrectly.

Leon 02-03-2025 01:45 PM

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I see the images fine...Great looking card but with the staining not sure it would bump up....but anything can happen with TPG's so who knows. Good luck!

ps...lets keep it to one thread. I can help with the pics

3-2-count 02-03-2025 01:51 PM

I’ll play. I’d place a value on the card of $17K.

And as Leon says, I don’t think it bumps with the staining either (which I love by the way)

ABbaby 02-03-2025 02:00 PM

Thanks Tony! I found this sale of a comparable one but has 2 other print blemishes (?) that are fairly noticeable on it. One being right across the Big Train's chest

https://collectrea.com/archives/2023...on-gai-vg-ex-4

About the same as your estimate a little under 2 years ago...

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Originally Posted by 3-2-count (Post 2493311)
I’ll play. I’d place a value on the card of $17K.

And as Leon says, I don’t think it bumps with the staining either (which I love by the way)


ABbaby 02-03-2025 02:10 PM

Updated!

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2493305)
Fully agree.... Need an image in order to answer your questions.


ullmandds 02-03-2025 02:12 PM

great centering for the card/issue...but as stated the stains detract. appears graded correctly and should sell well for its grade.

Casey2296 02-03-2025 04:02 PM

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Here's a 3.5 that sold in Heritage for $15,600 in December 2024.

Not sure about yours upgrading past a 3, but it is a fantastic card.

I'd put the value in the $15K +/- range, with a highly desirable card like that you never know though.
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ajjohnsonsoxfan 02-03-2025 05:58 PM

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I'd guess you'd get over $15k based on current comps. I haven't seen many 14 Johnson's with nice centering like yours. I think you'd get a premium. Would recommend coming up with a price that would make you happy and list here on Net54. Or you could list on ebay with BIN or starting auction price of your ask and see if it goes higher (you'll need to factor in ebay's fees). Lastly you could always give it to one of the trusted auction houses like Love of the Game or REA. I've attached the latests comps on VCP. GLWS!

Kidnapped18 02-03-2025 07:56 PM

Can you display the full pic with the PSA cert #?
PSA has 10 graded PSA 3s of Johnson
The highest price I have for a PSA 3 is $25K and that was in the Summer of 2020
When you post it for sale on the BST I'm sure you will get some offers on it
$14k to $18k is not unrealistic

perezfan 02-03-2025 09:43 PM

Great centering and sharp corners for a "3". But I am doubtful whether it would bump to a 3.5. Traditionally PSA is pretty forgiving of the caramel staining, but often times they are not. They are inconsistent, and seem to be far less lenient in recent times.

That said, 15.5K - $16.5K would be my guess for price realized. Best of luck!

Snapolit1 02-04-2025 04:06 AM

Nothing against BST, but a card like that I would prob consign to an auction house. Who cares what their hype is. You want to get the card in front of as many big spenders’ eyeballs as possible. You want two guys trying to kill each other for the card. That’s what it’s all about. Worst case scenario it sells at an AH for the kind of price people are taking about. Ask for some of the buyers commission back too. In this market it’s very hard to assess numbers.

Leon 02-04-2025 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2493436)
Nothing against BST, but a card like that I would prob consign to an auction house. Who cares what their hype is. You want to get the card in front of as many big spenders’ eyeballs as possible. You want two guys trying to kill each other for the card. That’s what it’s all about. Worst case scenario it sells at an AH for the kind of price people are taking about. Ask for some of the buyers commission back too. In this market it’s very hard to assess numbers.

Plenty of 10k plus sales on BST. My first one was over 50k.
I would rather try here first but I'm biased

icurnmedic 02-04-2025 09:52 AM

At least $15k at auction I would think, maybe a slight discount here, it's not going to bump, Amazing card!

ABbaby 02-04-2025 10:16 AM

One can hope. I know I have certainly tried to outbid others to get my way!

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2493436)
Nothing against BST, but a card like that I would prob consign to an auction house. Who cares what their hype is. You want to get the card in front of as many big spenders’ eyeballs as possible. You want two guys trying to kill each other for the card. That’s what it’s all about. Worst case scenario it sells at an AH for the kind of price people are taking about. Ask for some of the buyers commission back too. In this market it’s very hard to assess numbers.


ABbaby 02-04-2025 10:29 AM

Thank you for taking the time to share these! The 2/2021 example stood out as visually similar with less staining. Not many sales of centered examples it seems

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Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan (Post 2493376)
I'd guess you'd get over $15k based on current comps. I haven't seen many 14 Johnson's with nice centering like yours. I think you'd get a premium. Would recommend coming up with a price that would make you happy and list here on Net54. Or you could list on ebay with BIN or starting auction price of your ask and see if it goes higher (you'll need to factor in ebay's fees). Lastly you could always give it to one of the trusted auction houses like Love of the Game or REA. I've attached the latests comps on VCP. GLWS!


PhillyFan1883 02-07-2025 08:04 PM

Great card. Properly graded, 15k range seems about right. I agree withe the others.


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