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oldjudge 08-12-2024 02:26 PM

Old Judge Cabinets in REA
 
Looking at the N173 realizations in REA it appears that these cards are getting increased interest. Given their relative rarity and generally better image quality than N172s I still think they are undervalued versus their more diminutive brothers. Was anyone on the board luck enough to win any of these?

bandrus1 08-12-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2453814)
Looking at the N173 realizations in REA it appears that these cards are getting increased interest. Given their relative rarity and generally better image quality than N172s I still think they are undervalued versus their more diminutive brothers. Was anyone on the board luck enough to win any of these?


The final hammer on Big Ed was absolutely insane

GaryPassamonte 08-12-2024 03:26 PM

I was thinking the same thing, Jay. It's nice to see some higher prices for 19th century cards. $50K plus for the trimmed Delahanty is impressive and the prices for the Kelly and O'Rourke weren't too shabby either. This is the first thread related to 19th century to be started in a long time.

bandrus1 08-12-2024 03:55 PM

Maybe GQ's will get some renewed attention soon

oldjudge 08-12-2024 04:05 PM

I was somewhat surprised by the Delahanty too. However, his cabinets are amongst the scarcest of all N173s and he is arguably the greatest 19th century player.

h2oya311 08-12-2024 05:13 PM

That makes me throw up a bit in my mouth.

That Big Ed used to be mine but I sold it during the pandemic…to help fund a pool build. I never would have expected that sort of price given the hack job on the bottom. Don’t get me wrong, I still made out quite well, but nothing even remotely close to the hammer!!

LEHR 08-12-2024 06:33 PM

Congrats to whoever won the George Gore N173, it’s a beautiful cabinet!
I took it to $2.5k but was outbid 20 minutes later and ended up the underbidder. I still managed to pick up a Newsboy cabinet so it wasn’t a total loss.

Schwertfeger1007 08-12-2024 07:41 PM

I won a few good ones...and drove up prices on others.

Thanks Paul! I was shocked I didn't get pushed harder on the Gore. I've never seen a nicer image quality on one. Can't wait to get it in hand.

Schwertfeger1007 08-12-2024 07:55 PM

Going to be an epic mail day. Jay's right, these don't come along often!

puckpaul 08-12-2024 09:08 PM

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Always love the N173 cabinets. Gorgeous cards. I only have a few, these three and a beautiful Clarkson that i cant seem to upload the file for.

calvindog 08-13-2024 06:28 AM

These are great cards and really haven't had their day yet. But it's coming.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...88fbe0e4_b.jpg

LEHR 08-13-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 2453936)
These are great cards and really haven't had their day yet. But it's coming.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...88fbe0e4_b.jpg

That Radbourn is a beauty! And I'm hoping their day isn't coming anytime soon. I'd like to pick up several more before I'm priced out.:)

Keith H. Thompson 08-13-2024 09:18 AM

Ed Delahanty
 
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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2453834)
I was somewhat surprised by the Delahanty too. However, his cabinets are amongst the scarcest of all N173s and he is arguably the greatest 19th century player.

And certainly, in contrast to his statistics, the least common in N172 and N173.

z28jd 08-13-2024 09:48 AM

I'd recommend an N173 to everyone just as a type card. The photo quality on the cards is amazing. I was lucky enough to get two of them many years ago for a great price. I won one off of Ebay for a very good price, then saw the seller had one that didn't get a bid, so I made a lower offer to see if he would take it and combine ship the two cards. No scans available right now, but as someone who has collected Old Judge cards since I was a teen, I can't recommend enough for people to get at least one N173 card for their collection.

oldjudge 08-13-2024 12:14 PM

The primary reason for the superiority of N173 images is that they are first generation photos while N172s are second generation photos.

ejharrington 08-13-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2454010)
The primary reason for the superiority of N173 images is that they are first generation photos while N172s are second generation photos.

Is that true for the Kelly as well? That one doesn’t seem to be as crisp as the others

oldjudge 08-13-2024 02:31 PM

All old judge cabinets were made directly from the glass plate negative. All N172s are rephotographed cabinet size prints. So yes, it is true for all cabinets. What happened to the cabinet over the last 135 years will impact how it looks today.
Think about that--135 years. I guarantee that neither of us will look that good at 135.

oldjudge 08-13-2024 03:11 PM

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Here are a few nice ones. Sorry for the glare on a few (obviously it pissed Old Hoss off):

Schwertfeger1007 08-13-2024 08:56 PM

Jay- You can streamline this whole thing by just posting these cards in BST. It just seems disingenuous (and a lot of work) to spin up a thread talking about how interested you are in recent N173 sales then subtly dropping a few you've been trying to sell for years :rolleyes:

robertsmithnocure 08-13-2024 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007 (Post 2454106)
Jay- You can streamline this whole thing by just posting these cards in BST. It just seems disingenuous (and a lot of work) to spin up a thread talking about how interested you are in recent N173 sales then subtly dropping a few you've been trying to sell for years :rolleyes:

I have not seen many N173 Old Judge Cabinets on the BST. Can someone post a link to Jay's? I would love to see what is available.

oldjudge 08-13-2024 10:21 PM

Not my intent at all; surprised to see you say that.

Brent G. 08-14-2024 11:33 AM

That Peeples image is incredible.

h2oya311 08-14-2024 12:18 PM

For those that couldn’t tell, Brian was joking…but admittedly, I took a quick look on the BST…just in case!!

Wishful thinking on the part of everyone who was ogling Jay’s collection of OJ Cabinets…

Brent G. 08-14-2024 02:08 PM

Jay, happen to have any cabinets of Indianapolis players?

rjackson44 08-14-2024 02:40 PM

This is why net 54 rocks just reading this omg

oldjudge 08-14-2024 02:52 PM

I pretty much only collect HOFers, despite some images above, so no. I suspect that Indianapolis cabinets are scarcer than a lot of teams because it was a smaller market (less potential people ordering) and had a lack of super stars. I would guess that the easiest Indy cabinets to find would be Glasscock, Denny and Hines.

Brent G. 08-14-2024 03:20 PM

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Apparently the Metropolitan Museum of Art has the real trove (152). I'd love to find this one somehow, someday.

pete zouras 08-14-2024 03:42 PM

Grandma Cody's
 
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brother.

oldjudge 08-14-2024 03:50 PM

I believe that those are proofs. That Healy is a beauty. That Burdick guy had a pretty good little collection.

Schwertfeger1007 08-14-2024 03:59 PM

I regretfully had to part with a super nice Dog's Head Glasscock a couple years ago. Sadly I doubt I'll ever find another...

Brent G. 08-14-2024 05:15 PM

Just looked that Glasscock up in a thread from last year, Brian ... WOW.

molenick 08-14-2024 09:17 PM

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I have one N173 Indianapolis player (not for sale).

Schwertfeger1007 08-15-2024 12:28 AM

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Nfs

LEHR 08-15-2024 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by molenick (Post 2454321)
I have one N173 Indianapolis player (not for sale).

Michael, If the day comes that you decide to sell/trade that, I'd definitely be interested. I'd even be willing to let that Kid Baldwin we battled for go to you in a trade deal.:)

Regardless, that's a beauty and thanks for posting the image!

sb1 08-15-2024 06:36 AM

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One of a few left here..

Leon 08-15-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 2454353)
One of a few left here..

Great clarity...very cool card!
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LEHR 08-15-2024 09:15 AM

Lots of great cabinets posted.

oldjudge 08-15-2024 09:23 AM

Great card Scott! I've always loved that pose.

BeanTown 08-15-2024 12:23 PM

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One of my few remaining N173s left in my collection.

molenick 08-15-2024 12:28 PM

The N173s that people who only have a few left are keeping are amazing!

TheBig6 08-15-2024 12:45 PM

I have 4, wish I had more.
https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ize/kelly3.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ize/keefe2.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...size/ward2.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ze/commy_1.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...e/wright_1.jpg


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