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Schwertfeger1007 10-25-2022 06:26 PM

The Louisville Slugger- Pete Browning
 
Hey Guys (and Gals??),

Would love to see any Pete Browning Cards / Images / Items the group might have.

Detroit58 10-25-2022 08:41 PM

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Boston PublisherAttachment 540053

Detroit58 10-25-2022 08:53 PM

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I got 2 other newly discovered Pete Browning’s. I’ll try to get them posted tomorrowAttachment 540054

robertsmithnocure 10-25-2022 08:58 PM

Do you have any provenance for your cabinet?

I hope that you are right, but that does not look like Browning to me.

Detroit58 10-25-2022 09:12 PM

By provenance, do you mean “history of ownership’? If the answer is yes, do you mean the “history of ownership” of the card of the image on the card?

Detroit58 10-25-2022 09:14 PM

Sorry typo. Do you want the “history of ownership” of the cabinet card or of the image that is on the cabinet card?

robertsmithnocure 10-25-2022 09:17 PM

By provenance, I mean where did the card come from? Oftentimes, these originate from the families of the players. Cabinet cards like yours were probably not available to the public and were made for personal use.

What makes you think that is Pete Browning?

Detroit58 10-25-2022 09:39 PM

Please read the Buck Ewing thread that was created recently. It’s not that long. The facial recognition on the Boston Browning is pretty obvious. I’ll post it if you want or need it. I’m guessing you haven’t done the facial recognition and probably don’t care to. I got 2 other Pete Browning’s. I’ll post them and the facial recognition for the three tomorrow. I haven’t pressed the seller for info on the “history of ownership.” I never needed to know the “history of ownership” on any of my cards yet. Do people buy cards that come with log books nowadays or something? A pile of receipts? What am I missing? Is “history of ownership” word of mouth in the baseball card word. Are auction houses “ownership historians”? Do authenticators use “history of ownership” when looking at an image on a pass or fail basis? How much of a factor in authentication of an image is “history of ownership”? I’d there any authentication companies that look at baseball players faces on a pass or fail basis? Is history of ownership s factor in there analysis?

robertsmithnocure 10-25-2022 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Detroit58 (Post 2277487)
I got 2 other Pete Browning’s. I’ll post them and the facial recognition for the three tomorrow. I haven’t pressed the seller for info on the “history of ownership.” I never needed to know the “history of ownership” on any of my cards yet.

Browning is one of the scarcest and most desirable 19th century images to find and you have three different? Yes, I would think that you would want to press the seller for the “history of ownership.”

Schwertfeger1007 10-25-2022 11:00 PM

That ain't him bud.

Rad_Hazard 10-26-2022 08:21 AM

Agreed, definitely not Browning.

jingram058 10-26-2022 08:51 AM

Wow, two in one day. As Yogi said, "It's like deja-vu all over again."

robertsmithnocure 10-26-2022 10:18 AM

Detroit58, Is this you on ebay with the Cy Young rookie and offer HOF cabinets and CDVs?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13429904093...sAAOSwYpNjWGBi

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item...relics&_sop=16

BobbyStrawberry 10-26-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2277580)

Yikes

Fred 10-26-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058 (Post 2277559)
Wow, two in one day. As Yogi said, "It's like deja-vu all over again."

I never get that lucky. I'd settle for one in a lifetime.

Schwertfeger1007 10-26-2022 01:07 PM

Oh yeah!!

This is TOTALLY the guy selling images of random assholes with moustaches from the 1800's on ebay and claiming they are Baseball Stars and touting some BS facial recognition.

I messaged him months back telling him these are not them and asking him to stop and he said something like "thanks for your opinion".

ALR-bishop 10-26-2022 01:37 PM

"Homefolks think I'm big in Detroit city...." Bobby Bare

Fred 10-26-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwertfeger1007 (Post 2277631)
Oh yeah!!

This is TOTALLY the guy selling images of random assholes with moustaches from the 1800's on ebay and claiming they are Baseball Stars and touting some BS facial recognition.

I messaged him months back telling him these are not them and asking him to stop and he said something like "thanks for your opinion".

And that's what we get from TPGs! Some people are just destined to hit the lottery, over and over again.

BobC 10-26-2022 09:21 PM

Regarding the facial recognition claim, I think back in his first ever post on here, a year or so ago, he kept touting another alleged photo identification and saying something about the FBI and facial recognition saying his cabinet/photo was supposedly a match for who he claimed it to be. Also kept claiming to have gotten the advice/backing for such a match by talking to someone he kept referring to as the "king kahuna" I believe, but wouldn't share this supposed expert's name, or valid credentials. Thought that was real interesting, and telling.

He appears to seek out and collect old cabinets and 19th century photos of men that may have at least a passing resemblance to famous historical ballplayers, and is trying to find someone to go along and validate his claims, without any real collaborative evidence or other provenance at all. I believe he even referred to his simply trying to provide for and feed his family with three kids. While I sincerely hope he and his family are well and doing alright, the almost immediate use of such a statement will raise some concern in many as to the reason, and veracity, of playing such a card somewhat early in a hand. While I am no expert and can't definitely say or prove an old photo or cabinet image is or is not one of the people he claims them to be, the chances of his claims that all of the multiple cabinet/photo images he has are of who he claims are likely multiples of times higher than one of us going out and buying next week's winning Mega Millions lottery ticket. People do have doppelgangers, and have also heard/read where facial recognition software is not infallible, and that accuracy of it can be negatively affected by the age of photos, along with many other factors. And with no additional collaborating proof or evidence to support any of the facial recognition claims, his claims will likely continue falling on mostly deaf ears.

gabrinus 10-27-2022 01:28 AM

2 Brownings
 
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Hey check out the two Pete Brownings I found!!...Jerry

rjackson44 10-27-2022 03:08 AM

Not even close but he tries


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