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rjackson44 10-23-2022 05:40 PM

Marshall fogel the greatest collection in the world
 
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Not even close ,,your thoughts.

rjackson44 10-23-2022 05:41 PM

Sportscard investor terrific video on you tube ,you will faint omg

sb1 10-23-2022 05:48 PM

Depends if you are focusing on high grade or rarity. Perhaps to high grade, not even close to being tops in terms of breadth and rarity.

111gecko 10-23-2022 06:29 PM

Fogel
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2DEXxZDTU

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...

Casey2296 10-23-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 2276687)
Depends if you are focusing on high grade or rarity. Perhaps to high grade, not even close to being tops in terms of breadth and rarity.

I'm fantasizing on what a top breadth and rarity collection would look like, so many cards with less than ten examples, would be truly impressive.

Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2276697)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2DEXxZDTU

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...

Fantastic.

rjackson44 10-23-2022 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2276697)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2DEXxZDTU

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...

Thank you

Lorewalker 10-23-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2276697)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2DEXxZDTU

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...

Amazing collection. Thanks for posting.

ejharrington 10-23-2022 07:17 PM

Great video.

RCFire82 10-23-2022 07:33 PM

"You can spend less money, and have just as much fun." Really appreciate this statement/point of view from Mr. Fogel.

Hankphenom 10-23-2022 07:46 PM

What fun. I've had the pleasure of hanging out with Marshall a few times, and he's terrific, such enthusiasm for all things baseball. Nice guy, too. When he outbid me for the WaJo Horner cabinet at the Christies's auction in '96, he came over and apologized!

MantleMarisFordBerra 10-23-2022 08:07 PM

That was absolutely unreal. And his demeanor is so warm and friendly. Thanks for posting, would love to see a longer cut.

Jewish-collector 10-23-2022 08:32 PM

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Tom Zappala says Ken Kendrick has the best collection in the world. Sometimes you just got say that both collections are incredible. Attachment 539591

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brunswickreeves 10-23-2022 08:58 PM

That's gotta be a $100MM collection!

ZachS 10-23-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2276697)

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...


That was insane. I love how he's so nonchalant about it. Most people with stuff that valuable are "hands off".

CobbSpikedMe 10-23-2022 09:20 PM

I have to admit, that was impressive to see just a little of his collection. I didn't now he had as much memorabilia as he does. I think I'm still more impressed by Barry Halper's collection though. Just because of how he acquired his items a lot of times from the players personally and not just with super deep pockets. But I am impressed with this collection. No doubt.



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rhettyeakley 10-23-2022 10:27 PM

There are one or two members here whose collection I would be more interested in seeing. Not taking anything away from his collection but condition rarity doesn’t do it for me like absolute rarity does.

There is no wrong way to collect and this is truly an amazing collection.

Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2022 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 2276772)
There are one or two members here whose collection I would be more interested in seeing. Not taking anything away from his collection but condition rarity doesn’t do it for me like absolute rarity does.

There is no wrong way to collect and this is truly an amazing collection.

I guess the concern is passe, but I do wonder if some of those 8s and 9s had some help.

Lucas00 10-23-2022 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2276773)
I guess the concern is passe, but I do wonder if some of those 8s and 9s had some help.

That '55 Bowman mantle 10 looks like it would grade a 7 today.

michael3322 10-23-2022 10:50 PM

Here’s an interview he gave:

https://collectable.com/collectableu...m-mantle-card/

Excerpt: “I have the largest Hall of Famer game used bat collection, bigger than the Hall of Fame’s. It includes a game-used Honus Wagner during his playing career from the great Louisville Slugger find that was “side-written” when shipped back to the Louisville Slugger factory for another. Then I have a Lou Gehrig bat: “To Jerry May you take better advantage than I did.” He wrote that while he was dying. And, yes, I have a Babe Ruth bat. The markings are from 1925 to 1931, so he may have used it to hit his 60th home run in 1927. In the first big book on bats, 90 percent of those featured were mine.”


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Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2276774)
That '55 Bowman mantle 10 looks like it would grade a 7 today.

I am guessing most of his cards were graded quite a long time ago when standards were more lenient. I would be less concerned about that than if some were not entirely natural. Hopefully that is not the case. But reality being what it is, it would not surprise me. Either way quite a remarkable achievement.

RCMcKenzie 10-23-2022 11:18 PM

I think the greatest collection in the world is probably Burdick's in storage at the MET or maybe the Fritsch family stuff. Maybe also the OJ authors.

JustinD 10-24-2022 07:21 AM

You just have to respect the eccentric understatement of a guy wearing a stretched out Amazon basics sweatshirt that looks like he traded a homeless guy a tuna sandwich for, still having fun with a 100m+ collection after all these years. It's hard not to like.

fkm_bky 10-24-2022 07:44 AM

To make Jeff speechless is an accomplishment! That was a fun video to watch and just an amazing collection and attitude to have.

Thanks!

Bill

luciobar1980 10-24-2022 07:54 AM

Meh, I'm fine with my complete 1987 Topps set. :p

mrreality68 10-24-2022 08:11 AM

Wow and Wow and Wow

Looks like a Great collection and I wish We all could see it all but what was shown is amazing.

I would love to see all his pre-war cards but what is shown is amazing and the conditions are amazing

Funny when he says he would no 7's in his collection

and funny how he just spreads them out with no care

I was trying to go screen by screen forward to see everything

Sensory Overload

steve B 10-24-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2276778)
I think the greatest collection in the world is probably Burdick's in storage at the MET or maybe the Fritsch family stuff. Maybe also the OJ authors.

The LOC also has an impressive collection. The online version is had to use, but they have a good collection.

CobbSpikedMe 10-24-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 2276860)
The LOC also has an impressive collection. The online version is had to use, but they have a good collection.

I totally forgot about the LOC collection. And I do think they could/should do a better job of sharing it online.




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sycks22 10-24-2022 11:09 AM

It's fun to see how humble he is. He's like a kid in a candy store.

Snowman 10-24-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2276777)
I am guessing most of his cards were graded quite a long time ago when standards were more lenient. I would be less concerned about that than if some were not entirely natural. Hopefully that is not the case. But reality being what it is, it would not surprise me. Either way quite a remarkable achievement.

Yes, the majority of these have been altered, and most were graded back when today's NM cards were given 10s & 9s. But it's still an epic collection that I'd be ecstatic to own. I just choose to ignore the fact that 80% of the value in his collection comes from the holders rather than the cards and focus on how cool the cards themselves still are.

darwinbulldog 10-24-2022 12:11 PM

I'm also in the camp of being more interested in rare cards in any condition than popular cards in great condition, but I'm happy to see how much joy he gets from the hobby.

perezfan 10-24-2022 01:28 PM

Halper’s collection was more remarkable than Fogel’s IMHO.

Still a killer collection.

G1911 10-24-2022 01:52 PM

Nice to see the enjoyment for the cards and spreading them out like commons.

For those who are both absurdly wealthy and enjoy handling their cards like this, the practical security needs must be an annoyance. I’d be scared to have a tenth of that sitting around.

parkplace33 10-24-2022 02:02 PM

I wonder what the insured value of this collection is... $100 million?

Rare Stuff 10-24-2022 03:42 PM

Here is a video of the D’Backs collection (Ken Kendrick) I took at The National. Similar to Marshall Fogals collection.

https://youtu.be/t9lSnTMZyQo

Baseballcrazy62 10-24-2022 05:28 PM

The most incredible card collection I have ever seen. WOW!!

Zach Wheat 10-24-2022 05:30 PM

Yes, impressive collection

Leon 10-24-2022 06:24 PM

Marshall looks like he's having fun. What more can you ask?
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Rhotchkiss 10-24-2022 07:01 PM

Great video and absolutely amazing collection.

Vintagecatcher 10-24-2022 07:29 PM

Nice to see that he's a passionate collector!
 
It's nice to see he's a passionate collector!

I'd certainly like to see another episode featuring his Carl Horner Cabinets!

Patrick

phillyfan24 10-25-2022 05:40 PM

Just watched the video. I noticed that many of his cards appeared to have the MBA Sticker on the front of the slabs. I was curious as to what are the opinions of some of you regarding that?

I look at that and just think about PWCC's High End/Top % designation. And have no interest in any card with that sticker.

Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

raulus 10-25-2022 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyfan24 (Post 2277396)
Just watched the video. I noticed that many of his cards appeared to have the MBA Sticker on the front of the slabs. I was curious as to what are the opinions of some of you regarding that?

I look at that and just think about PWCC's High End/Top % designation. And have no interest in any card with that sticker.

Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

In the past (i.e. pre-pandi), it seemed like the PWCC stickers drove prices up for those items, typically well above the historical price, often 30-50%. It could be that there were auction shenanigans coming into play, because you never know.

Am I a fan? Not really. And particularly not a fan if I have to pay a big fat premium to get it.

CobbSpikedMe 10-25-2022 05:50 PM

I don't care about the stickers personally. I wouldn't pay a premium for a card that has one. But if it was priced fairly and I wanted it I would buy it but not for the sticker. Just because I want it.



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ValKehl 10-26-2022 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 2276772)
There are one or two members here whose collection I would be more interested in seeing. Not taking anything away from his collection but condition rarity doesn’t do it for me like absolute rarity does.

+1 to what Rhett said, except that there at least a dozen Ner54 members whose collections I would be more interested in seeing.

JackR 10-26-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2276697)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2DEXxZDTU

The best is part when he throws them all over the table...

I could not believe how cavalierly he treated those cards. It seemed to me he was disrespecting them (not to mention scratching the slabs). I did not understand it at all.

perezfan 10-26-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JackR (Post 2277624)
I could not believe how cavalierly he treated those cards. It seemed to me he was disrespecting them (not to mention scratching the slabs). I did not understand it at all.

I had the same reaction. Why would you unnecessarily scratch the slabs like that?

Leon 10-26-2022 01:55 PM

I didn't see it quite way though I see how it could be interpreted like that.
I saw it like he was having fun showing the hobby and/or public his passion. I am guessing he has connections to get something re-holdered if he wants to. If it's about having fun, as we all say it should, then he was living it in that video. My 1st national (I think), maybe 2nd, it was around '99 or 2000, I had dinner with him, Scott B, Doug Allen and one other person, whom I don't remember. That was an interesting night.
For me, personally, I collect rarity but that doesn't diminish his collection an iota. It's a historic and great collection, he has. All things considered, that '52 Mantle, is possibly the nicest baseball card in existence. And this coming from someone who, if value was no consideration, would rather have lot's of other cards. Great stuff!

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Originally Posted by JackR (Post 2277624)
I could not believe how cavalierly he treated those cards. It seemed to me he was disrespecting them (not to mention scratching the slabs). I did not understand it at all.


rjackson44 10-26-2022 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2277641)
I didn't see it quite way though I see how it could be interpreted like that.
I saw it like he was having fun showing the hobby and/or public his passion. I am guessing he has connections to get something re-holdered if he wants to. If it's about having fun, as we all say it should, then he was living it in that video. My 1st national (I think), maybe 2nd, it was around '99 or 2000, I had dinner with him, Scott B, Doug Allen and one other person, whom I don't remember. That was an interesting night.
For me, personally, I collect rarity but that doesn't diminish his collection an iota. It's a historic and great collection, he has. All things considered, that '52 Mantle, is possibly the nicest baseball card in existence. And this coming from someone who, if value was no consideration, would rather have lot's of other cards. Great stuff!

Thank you leon agree 100 pct ,fun fun

Al C.risafulli 10-26-2022 02:25 PM

The best thing about Marshall's collection is that he's a lovely guy.

Years ago when I was a big '38 Goudey collector I reached out to him to see if he had any dupes. We had an outstanding exchange of emails, he is a really knowledgeable guy and happy to share his knowledge, which is not something everyone does.

We've had a number of very pleasant conversations over the years, and I'm always left thinking he's just a great guy.

I found myself looking at the stuff on the walls in the video, which seems just as cool as the cards.

-Al

rjackson44 10-26-2022 03:50 PM

Guys part 2 is up and running


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