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hharm3 09-06-2022 10:39 AM

Indentification help
 
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Can anyone provide any insight as to who or what this card might be?

Thanks in advance,

MikeGarcia 09-06-2022 10:58 AM

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...-- Can you provide any information about the circumstances of its discovery.?
.--Everything you know , to give us Charley Chan aficionados a starting point. Great photo by the way ; your phone's going to be ringing off the hook.

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hharm3 09-06-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2261025)
...-- Can you provide any information about the circumstances of its discovery.?
.--Everything you know , to give us Charley Chan aficionados a starting point. Great photo by the way ; your phone's going to be ringing off the hook.

..

My late Father-in-law was a life long collector and part-time dealer. This was in his safe. Unfortunately, I have nothing more. He lived in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia so most of his buys were in PA, MD and VA. Not that is might not be from somewhere else but that was the area he frequented.

MikeGarcia 09-06-2022 11:59 AM

A good start.
 
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Originally Posted by hharm3 (Post 2261027)
My late Father-in-law was a life long collector and part-time dealer. This was in his safe. Unfortunately, I have nothing more. He lived in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia so most of his buys were in PA, MD and VA. Not that is might not be from somewhere else but that was the area he frequented.



.. now , we just need to research that area , in that era , for any team , city , or school or company or fraternal organization , with the financial means to support a team ( note the quality of the uniform and that mitt ) which has those letters in their name. Someone on here will get back to you by late Sunday evening. That bat is a great start , also. There are talents on this forum for whom this quest will be a walk in the park , a piece of cake , a mere bagatelle .

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chadeast 09-06-2022 12:29 PM

Total guess based on the lettering on the jersey... Berlin. There is a Berlin, WV, for what it's worth.

hharm3 09-06-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2261042)
.. now , we just need to research that area , in that era , for any team , city , or school or company or fraternal organization , with the financial means to support a team ( note the quality of the uniform and that mitt ) which has those letters in their name. Someone on here will get back to you by late Sunday evening. That bat is a great start , also. There are talents on this forum for whom this quest will be a walk in the park , a piece of cake , a mere bagatelle .

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Do you have any idea on the last letter?

MikeGarcia 09-06-2022 12:56 PM

Four letters ?
 
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Originally Posted by hharm3 (Post 2261056)
Do you have any idea on the last letter?


.. I'm thinking there's 4 letters before the " R ", ; based on the size of the other letters.

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chadeast 09-06-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2261061)
.. I'm thinking there's 4 letters before the " R ", ; based on the size of the other letters.

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How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

EDIT: Edit to add mention of Oberlin's interesting place in history as an early stop in Moses Fleetwood Walker's career.

hharm3 09-06-2022 01:10 PM

I keep wanting to put Carlisle in there but the last letter we can see doesn't quite make an S.

hharm3 09-06-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2261063)
How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

Very possible.

isiahfan 09-06-2022 03:47 PM

looks like guy second from left...

https://www.alamy.com/the-ista-ber-o...1&searchtype=0

hharm3 09-06-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by isiahfan (Post 2261129)

Wow. Oberlin College is 30 minutes from Bluffton, OH.

MikeGarcia 09-06-2022 04:41 PM

Ding Ding Ding .....We may have a winner
 
[QUOTE=chadeast;2261063]How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

. So the letters O , B , and E can readily be on the uniform's unseen side , and a scrunched up N is not a bad guess for the mystery of that last letter.

.. Now to assign a time period to the bat and mitt., and style of cabinet . Can you put up a scan of the back ? Might help.

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hharm3 09-06-2022 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=MikeGarcia;2261158]
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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2261063)
How about Oberlin College? something like this...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353979266073

. So the letters O , B , and E can readily be on the uniform's unseen side , and a scrunched up N is not a bad guess for the mystery of that last letter.

.. Now to assign a time period to the bat and mitt., and style of cabinet . Can you put up a scan of the back ? Might help.

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I don't have it in hand at the moment. It's at my MILs home. I didn't get a pic of the back because it was just plain cardboard (to my eye anyway).

Kawika 09-06-2022 06:56 PM

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I have access to a website called EYearbooks which has school yearbooks for many colleges. This is the Oberlin baseball team as depicted in the 1910 volume. The uniform sported by the mystery battery is similar in some regards, different in others. 1910 was just a semi-wild guess on my part. If anybody has a better idea what year the picture was taken I'll take a further look.

hharm3 09-06-2022 07:08 PM

Could it be Livingstone?

FrankWakefield 09-06-2022 07:19 PM

Aloha, David!

Seems to me that Oberlin is the likely name on that jersey.

Great team picture, you guys are pretty good at sorting stuff out.

gabrinus 09-06-2022 07:29 PM

Great Job
 
Great job David!!...Jerry

hharm3 09-06-2022 07:33 PM

You all are quite amazing. I figure at this rate I'll be talking to his great-grandchild by the weekend.

isiahfan 09-06-2022 09:11 PM

Wilcox is a name I would check on!

Kawika 09-06-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield (Post 2261199)
Aloha, David!

Seems to me that Oberlin is the likely name on that jersey.

Great team picture, you guys are pretty good at sorting stuff out.

Aloha back to you, Frank. Hope all is well down Kentucky way. Here in British Siberia I've got some serious old-age shit going on. My head is bloody but unbowed.

I picked the year 1910 just for somewhere to start. It could have been taken years before or years after. Plenty of folks here have a better eye at conjecturing the date than I do. Would be interested to know the best guess. The 1910 team picture had some similarities in the uniform and some discrepancies. Probably is Oberlin but no smoking gun. If the ears fit you must acquit but I don't think Livingstone is the guy.

Leon 09-08-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawika (Post 2261191)
I have access to a website called EYearbooks which has school yearbooks for many colleges. This is the Oberlin baseball team as depicted in the 1910 volume. The uniform sported by the mystery battery is similar in some regards, different in others. 1910 was just a semi-wild guess on my part. If anybody has a better idea what year the picture was taken I'll take a further look.

That's awesome, David. Thanks for the assist on this.
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hharm3 09-10-2022 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by isiahfan (Post 2261244)
Wilcox is a name I would check on!

I must have missed this post. Who is Wilcox?

isiahfan 09-10-2022 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hharm3 (Post 2262208)
I must have missed this post. Who is Wilcox?

If I am correct he played for Oberlin...and looks a lot like your fellow!

hharm3 09-10-2022 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by isiahfan (Post 2262406)
If I am correct he played for Oberlin...and looks a lot like your fellow!

What year?


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