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Aquarian Sports Cards 11-27-2019 01:55 PM

1950's Wheaties question
 
Have a George Mikan that's almost impossibly white as compared to most of these which are a much darker off-white. It does however show evidence of the navy field around the corners where they weren't cut perfectly. Was there a box style that was pure white? I've never heard of anyone reprinting these, let alone reprinting them and cutting them leaving Blue around the edge like many of the originals show. The cardboard itself looked at from the blank back is a perfect match for the others.

Scrmnegl77 11-27-2019 06:08 PM

https://www.huntauctions.com/phone/i...172&lot_num=64

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-27-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrmnegl77 (Post 1934505)

Great find but those are 1951's. The 52's have rounded corners and an orange background. Though it does show the possibility of a different box type. Thanks!

Scrmnegl77 11-30-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1934510)
Great find but those are 1951's. The 52's have rounded corners and an orange background. Though it does show the possibility of a different box type. Thanks!

This is what the 52's looked like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/67827566@N00/5314731372

62corvette 11-30-2019 03:40 PM

Wheaties
 
VBC guide indicates these were “heavily counterfeited in 2002.”
I have nothing super-white in the big set I completed back in the 1970’s.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-30-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrmnegl77 (Post 1935075)

Yeah, exactly like I described...

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-30-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 62corvette (Post 1935081)
VBC guide indicates these were “heavily counterfeited in 2002.”
I have nothing super-white in the big set I completed back in the 1970’s.

I've heard that story too, but there are also Wheaties collectors who say they've never seen a counterfeit. Which would be odd. The other thing is, with the woodcut style images you think there would be issues with the tiny parallel lines in a counterfeit, not to mention the small print. The Mikan in question has an image that matches up perfectly with none of the typical tell-tale flaws of a counterfeit, just the oddly white paper. As soon as I get it scanned I will post, next to some "regular" examples.

glynparson 12-01-2019 05:28 AM

Well if it is from l and t I think you know the answer. I remember some that didn’t seem kosher floating around years ago. I believe some got slabbed but I always avoided them because they just didn’t seem right to me. It’s an issue I would not say I am an expert on but I have seen my share over they years and I remember not liking them and I do know that they tended to be amazingly clean. Can’t wait to see the images.

Aquarian Sports Cards 12-01-2019 08:40 AM

Hey Glyn, wonder if they're the same source as the Double plays I'm pretty sure some of those have been slabbed. I have a complete set acquired in a collection and I was excited for about 5 seconds.

The source on the Wheaties card is local, but not from a problematic consignor (you know what I mean) however the consignor in question did unfortunately get hoodwinked a few times. We had to inform the consignor that their 1934 Goudeys were trimmed and a large handful of Diamond stars as well.

glynparson 12-01-2019 08:47 AM

I hate hearing good people get screwed Scott. I do believe they are the same source as the double plays. A well known forger in our area. I don’t know this to be fact but I clearly suspect it to be true.


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