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baseball tourist 07-13-2016 09:24 PM

Help requested - sigs on a couple of 1991 ASG balls
 
A Buddy found these in Toronto and I helped him identify a few. Would appreciate any assistance confirming my guesses and the unknowns. Thanks in advance!

Ball one:

Pic #1

Tom Glavine


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...pswlfpq6oy.jpg

Pic #2

Jim Leyland (thanks Steve!)
Rod Carew (thanks guys!)
George (Jorge) Bell
Jack McDowell (thanks "Steve D" !!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8eozyjoi.jpg

Pic# 3

Mike Morgan (thanks "mrmopar"!)
(a rushed) Roger Clemens (thanks guys...I see it too, now)
Sandy Alomar (thanks!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psw5uba6eq.jpg

Pic #4


Sig at bottom of panel:

Felix Jose (thanks guys!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psv9athnhl.jpg

Pic #5


Ken Griffey Jr
Dennis Martinez (thanks "mrmopar" and "Steve D" !!)
Bret Butler (thanks "mattic1983"'and "mrmopar" !!)
Ivan Calderon (Thanks!)


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...pstzfdbl3v.jpg

mattjc1983 07-13-2016 09:27 PM

Help requested - sigs on a couple of 1991 ASG balls
 
Definitely not Rod Carew on the one. I think the sig at the top of picture 3 is Matt Williams though. And fairly sure the second from the bottom in your last pic is Brett Butler.


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mrmopar 07-13-2016 09:34 PM

i see Mike Morgan (3), possibly Felix Jose (4) and Brett Butler (?) & Dennis Martinez (5).

mattjc1983 07-13-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmopar (Post 1561551)
i see Mike Morgan (3), possibly Felix Jose (4) and Brett Butler (?) & Dennis Martinez (5).



Yep, Mike Morgan, not Matt Williams; good call.

Steve D 07-13-2016 09:38 PM

The top signature in #3 looks like Matt Williams, and the one below Ken Griffey Jr is Dennis Martinez.

Edited to add: second autograph in #2 is Rod Carew.


Steve

baseball tourist 07-13-2016 09:41 PM

Ball 2
 
Second Ball:

Pic #1

Carl Erskine
Brooks Robinson


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psyae86i22.jpg

Pic # 2


Ralph Houk


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psavzyab9h.jpg


Pic # 3

Tony Larussa (thanks "Steve D" !!)
smudged away sig (not the camera, the sig is obliterated) - outline of Fergie Jenkins (thanks!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...pssgehugsl.jpg


Pic # 4


Bottom two on the panel:

Tim Hosley (thanks!)
Rusty Staub (thanks guys!)

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psnxjf7flm.jpg



Pic # 5

Maury Wills
Boog Powell (thanks guys !!)
Nick Willhite (thanks guys!)


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psyfqend6e.jpg


Pic # 6


Fred Patek
Dan Quisenberry

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psynvukpam.jpg

Steve D 07-13-2016 09:46 PM

Bottom signature in picture #2 is Jack McDowell.

Steve D 07-13-2016 09:48 PM

Top signature in picture #3 of ball #2 is Tony Larussa.

mrmopar 07-13-2016 09:50 PM

Rusty Staub (4), Boog Powell & Nick Willhite (5)

gashouse34 07-13-2016 09:50 PM

Already identified

Steve D 07-13-2016 09:50 PM

Ball #2, picture #4, bottom signature is Rusty Staub.

Steve D 07-13-2016 09:53 PM

Below Maury Wills, is George (Boog) Powell and Nick Willhite.

mrmopar 07-13-2016 09:54 PM

The more I look at ball 1, pic 3, the lighter sig, it looks a bit like Roger Clemens to me.

mrmopar 07-13-2016 09:55 PM

Pretty sure now that ball 1 pic 5 lowest is Ivan Calderon

gashouse34 07-13-2016 09:56 PM

I also thought it was possibly Clemens

mrmopar 07-13-2016 09:57 PM

Ball 1, pic 2 is Rod Carew by the way, 99% sure.

Steve D 07-13-2016 10:06 PM

I think the one below Mike Morgan is a sloppy Roger Clemens.

Steve D 07-13-2016 10:10 PM

Ball #1, picture #4, bottom signature looks like Felix Jose.

stewbacca 07-13-2016 10:11 PM

Ball 1 pic 3
Mike Morgan
I agree with roger Clemens
Sandy Alomar Jr.
Felix Jose

baseball tourist 07-13-2016 10:23 PM

Amazing as usual! And fast! Thanks guys! Just down to two:

Ball 1 - Pic 2 (top) - IDENTIFIED

Ball 2 - Pic 4 (top) - IDENTIFIED

Steve D 07-13-2016 10:42 PM

The one above Rod Carew, is Jim Leyland.

baseball tourist 07-13-2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1561576)
The one above Rod Carew, is Jim Leyland.

Very good eye! Thanks again!

Steve D 07-13-2016 10:47 PM

I believe the one above Rusty Staub, is Tim Hosley.

mattjc1983 07-13-2016 11:18 PM

Help requested - sigs on a couple of 1991 ASG balls
 
Alright, y'all convinced me that's Carew given the other vintage sigs. I've actually got multiple Carews and see it now; honestly hadn't even bothered to compare as the sig was so strange looking.

You've got a neat ball here!

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dgo71 07-14-2016 12:26 AM

This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

7nohitter 07-14-2016 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgo71 (Post 1561590)
This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

Looks like Ernie Whitt to me

baseball tourist 07-14-2016 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1561578)
I believe the one above Rusty Staub, is Tim Hosley.

Bingo! Thanks

baseball tourist 07-14-2016 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgo71 (Post 1561590)
This is ridiculously scary, but I think the signature that is blurred into oblivion used to be Fergie Jenkins...God help me I have a problem...

Wow! I think you are right. On the sig, not the problem :)

baseball tourist 07-14-2016 06:56 AM

Very nice eyes Gents! Always appreciate your help and time!

HOF Auto Rookies 07-14-2016 01:36 PM

A few of them I don't think they are legit...


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baseball tourist 07-14-2016 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies (Post 1561738)
A few of them I don't think they are legit...


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Which ones give you concerns Brent?

HOF Auto Rookies 07-14-2016 02:11 PM

A few that stand out the most are Glavine and Carew.

Glavine's just looks pretty bad. Looks to be slowly drawn even. Slant is off, letter formations look off.

Carew's R is the only thing that looks good to me. It does appear either super sloppy or rushed. So never know.

My biggest concern is there are many autographs that appear to be quick/rushed. Why are a lot of them like this? Usually on the ones I've gotten there aren't that many on a ball.

I hope I'm wrong. Looks to be era signed so could have been at the game itself and they were trying to sign as many as they could.


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baseball tourist 07-14-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies (Post 1561757)
A few that stand out the most are Glavine and Carew.

Glavine's just looks pretty bad. Looks to be slowly drawn even. Slant is off, letter formations look off.

Carew's R is the only thing that looks good to me. It does appear either super sloppy or rushed. So never know.

My biggest concern is there are many autographs that appear to be quick/rushed. Why are a lot of them like this? Usually on the ones I've gotten there aren't that many on a ball.

I hope I'm wrong. Looks to be era signed so could have been at the game itself and they were trying to sign as many as they could.


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Thanks. I assume they are rushed stadium or hotel sigs. I actually got a Rod Carew sig at the 1991 ASG and it looks just like this. I was confused as to whether or not it was Brett Butler - as I got him too - but on a program that I can't find in storage.

mattjc1983 07-14-2016 05:38 PM

^well there's your answer. Good to hear that you have a way to confirm the legitimacy of the Carew.


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HOF Auto Rookies 07-14-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjc1983 (Post 1561808)
^well there's your answer. Good to hear that you have a way to confirm the legitimacy of the Carew.


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+1 good!


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HOF Auto Rookies 07-14-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1561805)
I was confused as to whether or not it was Brett Butler - as I got him too - but on a program that I can't find in storage.


The Butler looks good to me.


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