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rednecksims 06-30-2015 11:41 AM

Help With Some Authenticity
 
I had someone offer these cards to me in trade. I they live several hours away so I cannot see them in hand. Any of these look off to anyone? I am working on getting pictures of the backs.

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...sfjd7yofd.jpeg

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...sbowoik37.jpeg

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...s1tfysmji.jpeg

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...s40snu5ck.jpeg

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...sad36ot0x.jpeg

The other party told me he would ship first. If I do get them in hand, what are some of the dead give aways of fakes/reprints?

He also said the the E120 has a movie ticket on the back. Couldn't find anything about that anywhere. I'm also guessing the cut corners are not anything variation, but someone that had no clue.

Thanks
David

Enfuego 06-30-2015 11:59 AM

I would recommend pulling up legit copies of these cards and do a comparison of every nook and cranny.

drcy 06-30-2015 12:23 PM

A simple if not definitive test when you have them in person is to sniff them. If they smell old and musty that's a good sign.

Sean 06-30-2015 12:28 PM

The T206 Schmidt looks real to me, but I want to see the back to be certain.

ullmandds 06-30-2015 12:29 PM

they all look authentic to me...most are commons after all.

Sean 06-30-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1426178)
they all look authentic to me...most are commons after all.

Good point.

drcy 06-30-2015 12:34 PM

As Peter said, those aren't cards that would normally be faked. Not the issues, but the players.

rednecksims 06-30-2015 04:11 PM

Thanks guys. That is what I figured. If anything was a reprint I figured the 206. Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket" back?

ullmandds 06-30-2015 04:21 PM

we would need to see the e120 back to figure out what it is...is a movie ticket stuck to the back? or is the advertisment on the back for a movie...which could be interesting?

swarmee 06-30-2015 04:21 PM

Well, it could have either been printed as a Globe Theater type back, or someone at the time could have glued their actual movie ticket stub to the back of the card. I have a nice 1969 Topps Luis Tiant with a 1969 Tiant sticker affixed to it. ;-)
Collectors do weird things.

bcbgcbrcb 06-30-2015 04:36 PM

As previously mentioned, don't think those particular cards would be faked and nothing looks bad to me so I would go with authentic on all.

nolemmings 06-30-2015 04:42 PM

Quote:

Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket"
Could be a Leader Theatre back.

frohme 06-30-2015 08:32 PM

Kings' Theatre
 
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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1426241)
Could be a Leader Theatre back.

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1426234)
we would need to see the e120 back to figure out what it is...is a movie ticket stuck to the back? or is the advertisment on the back for a movie...which could be interesting?

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Originally Posted by rednecksims (Post 1426226)
Thanks guys. That is what I figured. If anything was a reprint I figured the 206. Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket" back?

Unless I miss my mark, it the same card I used to own (below). King's Theatre (in St Louis) used them for a promo ending in late 1925. The Theatre (an airdome) didn't survive the onset on air-conditioned theatres and closed a number of years later.

There are a number of these known for both E120/W573 (at least 16) and E121/W575-1? (at least 2). A number of HOF's in the bunch.

The card stock is much thicker and stiffer than normal.

--
Mike

Zach Wheat 06-30-2015 08:37 PM

Looks Good
 
They look good to me. I collect most of these sets. Interesting movie tickets.....

Z

swarmee 07-01-2015 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by frohme (Post 1426325)
The card stock is much thicker and stiffer than normal.

So do you think that was due to the card being glued to a ticket back or a different printing stock that the card fronts were printed on? As in, could the card be taken apart to the regular back? Although with the nice story, they're probably as valuable or more valuable than a similarly conditioned regular card.


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