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GregMitch34 05-30-2015 08:11 AM

What's Hot, What's Not, May/June 2015
 
Every few months I start thread under this title and invite thoughts. As usual have to add: what's hot is NOT necessarily what you own!

Just to kick off I will suggest that CJ 14s remain but high-graded CJ 15s have late joined them. m116s getting even colder. Seems to have been surge in tougher t206s commons if PSA 5-6-7. Some high-grade caramels went well below expectations at recent HA auction.

The Babe goodeys continue to climb...

Your views? And what do you think will rebound or take off?

DeanH3 05-30-2015 10:19 AM

33 Goudey Gehrigs appear to be following the Babe on an upward trend.

Leon 05-30-2015 04:22 PM

Caramels are staying lukewarm except for any I want.

Peter_Spaeth 05-30-2015 08:46 PM

Major 50s rookie cards like Mantle, Aaron and Clemente, as well as the 52T Mantle, have surged tremendously over the past year or so.

Joshchisox08 05-30-2015 08:55 PM

I'd have to say the HAWKS baby !!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooooooooooooo

Orioles1954 05-30-2015 10:16 PM

1930s cards of players not named Gehrig or Ruth are ICE cold.

Sean 05-31-2015 03:55 AM

T206 rare backs continue hot.

Donscards 05-31-2015 04:50 AM

1951 Bowman Mays and Mantle---1963 Rose--1967 Seaver---1952 Mantle --1955 Clemente--1954 Aaron---1933 Goudey Ruth's---Ty Cobb---Joe Jackson--Complete Sets in Near Mint Condition.

Thromdog 05-31-2015 06:52 AM

Seems the secondary EPDG sales are strong after the Saco run in Q1. Lots of them on the Ebay market and they are still getting some good premiums.

Was hoping that I would be able to pick up some good "regret" sales but alas, the pricing has been consistent.

GregMitch34 05-31-2015 07:05 AM

I guess I'd add Ramly commons down and for a awhile now Old Judge commons (just too many of them and this is permanent?). U.S. Caramels seem strong.

Donscards 05-31-2015 08:02 AM

I am having a hard time selling ungraded Goudeys (other than Ruth and Gehrig) also ungraded commons from the 1960's--collectors are not putting sets together like the old days---1952 Topps Highs are selling well.

Big Ben 05-31-2015 09:01 AM

Since I can be a bit of a contrarian, I enjoy reading threads like this. :cool:

GregMitch34 05-31-2015 09:55 AM

So tell us what you are "contrary" about.....

MetsBaseball1973 05-31-2015 10:29 AM

Centered Mantles of any year. When 90+ of every hundred on eBay are so poorly centered, the competition for a well-framed example is fierce.

Any Ruth, Gehrig, Shoeless Joe. No surprises there I suppose!

54 Aaron, 55 Clemente, 63 Rose, 68 Ryan.

skooter 05-31-2015 05:05 PM

NOT = 1939 & 1940 Play Ball; Mid grade commons from the 1950s.

jefferyepayne 05-31-2015 05:48 PM

Football HOF rookies are white hot, setting records all the way from pre-war to the 1980's in high grade. Never seen anything like it in football before.

jeff

Big Ben 05-31-2015 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1416658)
So tell us what you are "contrary" about.....

It has been mentioned in this thread that 1930's cards aside from Ruth and Gehrig as well as the Playball issues are ice cold. I hope it stays like that for a while so I can add more of those cards to my collection. That is how I like to collect.

sreader3 06-02-2015 07:36 PM

I "sold in the cold" with a significant (for me) consignment of non-T206 prewar HOFers in the fall 2014 REA auction. I lost some $$$ (in the larger scheme of things no big deal). Definitely a learning experience. Scarcity seems to have been a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for a decent hammer price. For example, Burkett Koester's SGC 40 did well. But Faber Holsum Type 1 PSA 5 didn't.

I kept my medium grade (4, 5) Ruth, Gehrig and Wagner -- which is in synch with what has been said here. There is a definite price split going on. Cards of players whose fame transcends era (Ruth, Gehrig, Cy Young) are incresingly coveted, whereas cards of players who whose fame is trapped in an era are languishing -- even if they are HOFers. Additionally, as card knowledge increases, there is a slow but steady price divergence between truly scarcer cards -- which are rising -- and the more mundane -- which are falling. Finally, heavily collected sets, T206 comes to mind :), are generally doing better than lightly collected sets (almost everything else).

Just my opinion.

Edited to add: So I guess what I am saying is you should pony-up if a T206 Young (Glove Shows) Brown Lenox comes to auction.

Leon 06-04-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sreader3 (Post 1417515)
I "sold in the cold" with a significant (for me) consignment of non-T206 prewar HOFers in the fall 2014 REA auction. I lost some $$$ (in the larger scheme of things no big deal). Definitely a learning experience. Scarcity seems to have been a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for a decent hammer price. For example, Burkett Koester's SGC 40 did well. But Faber Holsum Type 1 PSA 5 didn't.

I kept my medium grade (4, 5) Ruth, Gehrig and Wagner -- which is in synch with what has been said here. There is a definite price split going on. Cards of players whose fame transcends era (Ruth, Gehrig, Cy Young) are incresingly coveted, whereas cards of players who whose fame is trapped in an era are languishing -- even if they are HOFers. Additionally, as card knowledge increases, there is a slow but steady price divergence between truly scarcer cards -- which are rising -- and the more mundane -- which are falling. Finally, heavily collected sets, T206 comes to mind :), are generally doing better than lightly collected sets (almost everything else).

Just my opinion.

Edited to add: So I guess what I am saying is you should pony-up if a T206 Young (Glove Shows) Brown Lenox comes to auction.

Good summation, Scot. I might point out what I have said before, the demand side of the economic equation is more important than the supply side in our hobby. There can be 2 of something (in the entire universe :)) but if only 1 person wants it, it's not going to be very valuable, relatively speaking. On the other hand, we all know of a thousand cards which aren't close to rare and bring big bucks.

ps...did anyone mention that a lot of the Bakery card series are still quite lukewarm, at best?

GregMitch34 06-04-2015 02:12 PM

How are Obaks doing--the different years (1909 etc.)?

Seems the "card" cards--Fan Craze, Polo Grounds, National Game, Tom Barker--need to be 9s or 10s to retain value....true?

nolemmings 06-04-2015 02:24 PM

Welcome to the land of m101-4/5s not named Ruth:

http://www.canada-photos.com/data/me...-tundra_60.jpg

insccollectibles 06-04-2015 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thromdog (Post 1416603)
Seems the secondary EPDG sales are strong after the Saco run in Q1. Lots of them on the Ebay market and they are still getting some good premiums.

Was hoping that I would be able to pick up some good "regret" sales but alas, the pricing has been consistent.

Some have some have not. I picked up a Larry Doyle SGC 60 for $130 and a Lake SGC 60 went for 170-180 in the same auction.

Leon 06-06-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1417996)
Welcome to the land of m101-4/5s not named Ruth:

http://www.canada-photos.com/data/me...-tundra_60.jpg

Some of the rare backs with key players seem to still bring some money. We need to find a way to tie them to T206. :cool:

mrvster 06-07-2015 05:27 AM

I hate
 
to say it - Hot - T206 rarities.....:D

dzolot 06-08-2015 07:08 PM

Great topic. Hot = anything being sold by pre war card collector. :)


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