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oldjudge 08-30-2013 07:03 PM

Is this Card Graded Correctly?
 
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This isn't meant as a bash fest. I am not a grading guy and I'm just wondering if the bottom border of this card allows it to qualify for an SGC 70.

Thanks--Jay

vintagetoppsguy 08-30-2013 07:07 PM

Yes, both PSA and SGC allow for rough cuts. Some people like them, some don't. I happen to like them a lot.

t206blogcom 08-30-2013 07:10 PM

Very nice card Jay!

slipk1068 08-30-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1178127)
Yes, both PSA and SGC allow for rough cuts. Some people like them, some don't. I happen to like them a lot.

Is it rough cuts on certain sets that they allow, e.g Old Judge, or just in general they allow rough cuts?

slipk1068 08-30-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206blogcom (Post 1178128)
Very nice card Jay!

+1

vintagetoppsguy 08-30-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1178132)
Is it rough cuts on certain sets that they allow, e.g Old Judge, or just in general they allow rough cuts?

I'm pretty sure it's any issue. This topic came up a couple of months ago or so on the post war side.

PolarBear 08-30-2013 07:47 PM

Infamous for his Sept 23rd, 1908 call. Nice card!

slipk1068 08-30-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1178135)
I'm pretty sure it's any issue. This topic came up a couple of months ago or so on the post war side.

thanks

oldjudge 08-30-2013 10:57 PM

Rough cuts are very, very unusual ( as in I've never seen one like this) in Old Judges. I think that rough edge happened after issue.

the 'stache 08-31-2013 12:11 AM

I can't speak as to the accuracy of this card, but it sure is a beauty, Jay.

toledo_mudhen 08-31-2013 04:15 AM

Love the rough cuts - goes back to a time when "perfection" wasn't the end all - be all. Plus no chance of a trim job there.........

clamendo 08-31-2013 06:58 AM

Jay,
I have spoken to one of the graders in the past
on this subject, but as it related to 1960 fleer
Football. Rough cuts are not graded harshly especially
if the set is typically found that way. I think
your card has nice eye appeal, that's probably
why.

slipk1068 08-31-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1178191)
Rough cuts are very, very unusual ( as in I've never seen one like this) in Old Judges. I think that rough edge happened after issue.

I always thought OJ was machine cut, hand cut, crooked cut, rough cut and any combination.

ElCabron 08-31-2013 01:28 PM

This makes no sense at all. I think some people are getting confused by the term "rough cut." Jay said he has NEVER seen a "rough cut" on an Old Judge and doesn't believe there is one on this card, either. Who cares if there is leniency for rough cuts on certain Fleer football cards or various O-Pee-Chee cards? Are we really saying that grading companies have more expertise and knowledge about Old Judges than Jay? What a joke! The answer to the original question is: No, that card is not graded correctly.

-Ryan

aaroncc 08-31-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoizeBringer (Post 1178369)
This makes no sense at all. I think some people are getting confused by the term "rough cut." Jay said he has NEVER seen a "rough cut" on an Old Judge and doesn't believe there is one on this card, either. Who cares if there is leniency for rough cuts on certain Fleer football cards or various O-Pee-Chee cards? Are we really saying that grading companies have more expertise and knowledge about Old Judges than Jay? What a joke! The answer to the original question is: No, that card is not graded correctly.

-Ryan

I agree with Ryan. But I wonder if the damage happened while its been in the holder.

wonkaticket 08-31-2013 02:22 PM

Very odd bottom why I passed on chasing it. Glad I wasn’t alone in my gut feeling or head scratch of that bottom border. I just thought it looked hacked had no idea it wasn’t the norm, neat to learn something if Jay has never seen one all my flags are up even more.

auggiedoggy 08-31-2013 04:55 PM

It boggles the mind
 
Its not worthy of a 5.5 in my opinion. That bottom edge should really knock it down several full grade points.


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