1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Matt Engle</b><p><br /><br />I picked these up at the Tri-star show yesterday in Cleveland. I had never seen any of these in real life before, and when I saw them I knew I had to have them. I've read in previous places that this set is under valued. If these cards are so rare to come by, why aren't they getting the value they deserve. Any help is needed.<br /><br />Matt Engle<br />mengle2@insight.rr.com<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2981/bentonis1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2396/houckfp4.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6426/lobertnl3.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8909/mageetl3.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5268/orrja5.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6395/perduefj2.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3474/phelanao9.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4269/t222lappix3.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>T222s are great. Ok, I'll ask - HOW MUCH did you pay for the cards?<br /><br />

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Fred,<br /><br />I dont want to embarrass myself. How much is too much?<br /><br />Matt

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>after I am done with the T200s... I am heading on to that set!<br /><br />great start. Just keep buying and don't look back <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>$110 per card

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Bobby</b><p>They don't sell in auction very often and the look your cards would grade SGC 10's. The latest values are in the $70-80 range. So you over paid a bit but you did get a lot of cards in one shot.

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Matt E</b><p>Was going through my mind....<br /><br />Not the first time I paid too much on cards. I had never seen so many together before.<br /><br />What would you do? Leave them on the table <br />with a guy standing in line behind me to buy them.<br />

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>you got a couple of tough ones in the group<br /><br />Scott

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Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>You got a few SP's in the group so it evens out. Don't sweat it you got a good deal IMO.

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Matt,<br /><br />What you experienced when you saw those cards was a good thing. You saw the cards and recognized that you liked them and that you had to have them. Whether or not you paid a little more than what they're worth is irrelevant. You saw something, you liked it and you bought it. Now all you have to do is enjoy them. It's a learning process. Since you have the bug the following is a great site for information on T222s:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.t207.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t207.com/</a><br /><br />Select the T222 tab at the top of the page. <br /><br />

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p>Keep in mind I found these T222's within the first 10 minutes of the show. Called home to check ebay and they said there was one sold and it was beat but sold for $100. Bought them and it made for a very short card show day. <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Rube-Benton-1914-Fatima-Players-T222-6_W0QQitemZ140025932185QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86841QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Rube-Benton-1914-Fatima-Players-T222-6_W0QQitemZ140025932185QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86841QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />I was not aware of the short prints and I guess I am lucky in that respect.<br />Oh well, I will be much wiser now since I have a handful of them. Thanks for the site info your Honor.<br /><br />By the way quite a few on Ebay now.... Are any shortprints? Authentics are pulling $80+.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>T222s and T200s are great choices in collecting. If you feel that the T222 set may be a little tough then try the T200. There are less cards and you get Jim Thorpe and Joe Jackson at (relative) bargain prices. The T200s are on the same thin stock as the T222s. I like both sets because they are actual photos of the players. Good luck!!!<br /><br />Edited to add - You can thank Bill Cornell (for the T222 web page) the next time you see him in one of these threads. Bill is a former "moderator dude" and current contributor to this board.

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Bill Cornell states that although the set was issued in 1914, several of the pictures of players were as much as five years old.<br /><br />I guess that explains the apparent absence of Federal Leaguers. I wonder if this use of old pictures affects rookie card collectors.

1914 T222 Fatima
 

Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Question: how do the non-baseball t222's compare in terms of difficulty? I've seen several in the past, but not nearly as many as the baseball.