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swarmee 01-26-2021 06:36 PM

Merchantman Auctions in Davie FL trying to sell counterfeits Jan 27
 
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=295474

Figured it was worth putting on the main board to get broader knowledge.

Peter_Spaeth 01-26-2021 07:51 PM

Have Justin and Daniel resurfaced?

swarmee 01-27-2021 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2060638)
Have Justin and Daniel resurfaced?

Were they Candiman? I think their main problems were trimming and using photoshop/overexposure to hide flaws on real cards. Not selling fakes at this level.

swarmee 01-29-2021 04:50 PM

$60K in counterfeit cards, listed in the thread above. Reported them to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Lets see what comes of it.

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-29-2021 05:03 PM

Well done John.

Seven 01-29-2021 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2061784)
$60K in counterfeit cards, listed in the thread above. Reported them to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Lets see what comes of it.

Thank you John. Hopefully something comes of this.

Eric72 01-30-2021 06:26 PM

Rather unfortunate that this thread has had so little participation. If it were an, "oh my, this grading company is changing the font size on their label" thread, there would have already been hundreds of comments.

Seven 01-30-2021 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2062203)
Rather unfortunate that this thread has had so little participation. If it were an, "oh my, this grading company is changing the font size on their label" thread, there would have already been hundreds of comments.

I'm surprised that this has gotten not a whole lot of participation either but I think this is more because that no one has heard of this Auction company, to my knowledge at least, and that it seems like a small scale operation.

I think also when push comes to shove there's only so much we can do against counterfeits, for both Cards and Auto's. We talk about Operation Bullpen all the time, yet there are still countless fake signatures of everyone from George Washington to Marilyn Monroe, to Mickey Mantle floating around, I'd imagine the same thing with cards.

swarmee 01-30-2021 08:09 PM

Yeah, I realize that. I had not heard of it until the post in the post-war forum brought them to my attention. I'm sure there's an auctionhouse in every state doing stuff like this, but not all of them post it on the internet for all to see.

Maybe someone from an auction house wants to report them to the FL state licensing board, presuming they're even registered in the first place.

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-23-2021 09:31 PM

Apparently all that comes from it is he switches providers. He is not with icollect anymore but in a Facebook group I belong to he was just outed as selling fakes with Hibid.

D. Bergin 09-24-2021 09:26 AM

Meanwhile, "Coach's Corner" still openly doing business.

Here's a couple doozies ending tonight:

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/354/marie-...signature.aspx

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/354/2-diff...-artworks.aspx


Casino gift shops and Cruise ship silent auction companies everywhere, can't wait to bid on their priceless paraphernalia, to stock up on items to sell to their sucke..................hmmm.......I mean "clients".

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

judsonhamlin 09-24-2021 09:33 AM

I love the idea that the Marie Antoinette ‘signature’ should be mounted with a photo. I’m sure Coaches could make one of those appear.

D. Bergin 09-24-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 2147607)
I love the idea that the Marie Antoinette ‘signature’ should be mounted with a photo. I’m sure Coaches could make one of those appear.

https://www.pluggedin.com/wp-content...e-1024x682.jpg

byrone 09-24-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2147605)
Meanwhile, "Coach's Corner" still openly doing business.

Here's a couple doozies ending tonight:

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/354/marie-...signature.aspx

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/354/2-diff...-artworks.aspx


Casino gift shops and Cruise ship silent auction companies everywhere, can't wait to bid on their priceless paraphernalia, to stock up on items to sell to their sucke..................hmmm.......I mean "clients".

:rolleyes::rolleyes:


Who doesn't want a Picasso?

And if I had a million dollars (If I had a million dollars)
Well I'd buy you some art
A Picasso or a Garfunkel

Lyrics by "Barenaked Ladies"

D. Bergin 09-24-2021 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byrone (Post 2147619)
Who doesn't want a Picasso?

And if I had a million dollars (If I had a million dollars)
Well I'd buy you some art
A Picasso or a Garfunkel

Lyrics by "Barenaked Ladies"


Probably only cost you a couple grand this time around though. ;);)

"If I had a thousand dollars, I'd buy you a fake"


Saw them live, what seems like a million years ago, at a free concert in Hartford. They were great! They basically free-style improvised half the concert with input from the audience. It was essentially a novelty act, but fun.

SteveS 09-24-2021 10:51 AM

See, what you're all missing here is that the reason the Marie Antoinette autograph looks so off is because she signed it right after she was beheaded and still had a few seconds left of reflexive body action. You really expect under those circumstances that it would look like all her other signatures?

D. Bergin 09-24-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveS (Post 2147637)
See, what you're all missing here is that the reason the Marie Antoinette autograph looks so off is because she signed it right after she was beheaded and still had a few seconds left of reflexive body action. You really expect under those circumstances that it would look like all her other signatures?


It would have been great if it included the inscription: "Let them eat Crazy bread #littlecaesars"




https://c.tenor.com/Yjx_r38x1aYAAAAd...-explosion.gif

Sterling Sports Auctions 09-27-2021 09:51 PM

I had a client that bought three reprints from him that he was guaranteed over the phone they were Authentic. Needless to say they did not back the purchase and my client had to claim a dispute with his credit card company.

Lee

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-21-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2147535)
Apparently all that comes from it is he switches providers. He is not with icollect anymore but in a Facebook group I belong to he was just outed as selling fakes with Hibid.

and now he's on Live Auctioneers lol.

mrreality68 01-21-2022 02:57 PM

Never a dull moment and it is tough keeping up with them.

But sadly in any area where money can be made some people will try to exploit it

mrreality68 01-21-2022 02:57 PM

Never a dull moment and it is tough keeping up with them.

But sadly in any area where money can be made some people will try to exploit it

Snapolit1 01-21-2022 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2062203)
Rather unfortunate that this thread has had so little participation. If it were an, "oh my, this grading company is changing the font size on their label" thread, there would have already been hundreds of comments.

If this was about Probstein we'd be up to 300 posts.

bnorth 01-21-2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2188050)
If this was about Probstein we'd be up to 300 posts.

and 100 of them would be saying how great he is.:D

Sterling Sports Auctions 02-03-2022 09:49 AM

Still active
 
Merchantman Auctions continues to sell reprints and scam there buyers

I just received a call from a client that was scammed by them in the December auction on a Green Cobb. They are selling the same Ty Cobb reprints over and over. That is just one player, who knows how many others are out there.

hibid.com should be held responsible since you can find there auctions through them.

I hope I do not have to hear of any others getting scammed by these people.

Lee

JustinD 02-03-2022 10:04 AM

God, every single one of these is just an awful fake.

Honestly, even if I didn't know they were I would run from a signal as bad as selling top shelf cards as a auction house in lucite 4 screws and the world's crappiest snap-tites.

I get that this is frustrating and I want more than anything for jacka**es like this to rot in a cell. When the fakes are this bad, I also don't feel bad victim blaming on this if someone is spending 1000s. If you buy a fake Lamborghini built on a Fiero chassis, you should be consulting someone.

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-03-2022 01:50 PM

I have reported them on several platforms, and I'm not bashful about letting these platforms know I am a licensed auctioneer who belongs to his state association who would be very interested to know they are not only allowing non-licensed auctioneers (many platforms do that) but are promoting frauds. Who are they using now?

adeichert56 01-11-2023 12:00 PM

Just bought from this auction service
 
Is there any chance he is more legit now? I am finding this thread after spending a fair amount of money. Since it was through HiBid I figured the auctioneer was legitimate. Bought some lower end mantles, other 50s and 60s that all APPEAR good to go, but now I am nervous..

Maybe not nervous that they are real, but that they could be altered, underlying issues, etc. Would love to hear if anyone has had a POSITIVE experience from buying through him. All I see are 5 good reviews through LiveAuctioneers.

NiceDocter 01-11-2023 12:23 PM

Looking not good
 
Guys like this almost never change. I would suggest submitting some of your cards to PSA or SGC to see what they say. Alternatively you could let a respected dealer with a black light , a magnifier and a good measuring device see what he thinks. A leopard does not change his spots …… I hate that people do this to an otherwise fun and enjoyable hobby. But money is a powerful character corruption for some . Good luck. Rocky Rockwell

Exhibitman 01-11-2023 12:32 PM

I'e run across a few dealers whose basic attitude is 'meh' when it comes to what they sell. They will blithely sell bad stuff mixed in with their good stuff.

bnorth 01-11-2023 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2303292)
I'e run across a few dealers whose basic attitude is 'meh' when it comes to what they sell. They will blithely sell bad stuff mixed in with their good stuff.

LOL, I had one of the highly respected dealers call me names and tell me he could do anything he wanted to a card after I pointed out he had sold several altered cards as rare errors.

Aquarian Sports Cards 01-11-2023 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adeichert56 (Post 2303278)
Is there any chance he is more legit now? I am finding this thread after spending a fair amount of money. Since it was through HiBid I figured the auctioneer was legitimate. Bought some lower end mantles, other 50s and 60s that all APPEAR good to go, but now I am nervous..

Maybe not nervous that they are real, but that they could be altered, underlying issues, etc. Would love to hear if anyone has had a POSITIVE experience from buying through him. All I see are 5 good reviews through LiveAuctioneers.

You won't find a more knowledgeable group than right here. I would post good clear pictures and someone will spot most problems.

JustinD 01-11-2023 01:57 PM

I would have a hard time thinking that the lengthy history of that group shows they have or will sell an honest thing unless it's by mistake.

I'm Your Huckleberry 12-11-2023 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2060616)
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=295474

Figured it was worth putting on the main board to get broader knowledge.

:mad:

I just won 3 auctions from this guy (only $375 total) but I had some hesitations when bidding because of the lack of photos/back images. I have requested a refund, so let's see what plays out.

Lesson learned...I assumed that HiBid would have a more robust vetting system in place and not allow counterfeit cards sold on their platform.

swarmee 12-11-2023 02:10 PM

Wow, still going on after three years.

I'm Your Huckleberry 12-11-2023 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2396252)
Wow, still going on after three years.

They have assured me that the cards are authentic and have had 50 + auctions with only positive reviews. Since this is not a large purchase, I plan to send them to SGC and see if they are indeed authentic cards. Two of them are graded by some no-name grading company based out of, you guessed it, Davies FL. And the worse thing, the number to the grading company (from their website) is the same as Merchantman Auctions phone number (from their website). Such a shame

Fred 12-11-2023 04:13 PM

Just curious, what cards did you get for $375? Any pictures/scans we can look at?

Gorditadogg 12-11-2023 05:45 PM

Lee, welcome to Net54. I always figured that swarmee was this dude's huckleberry. But if you can take the mantle, I wish you well.

Keep us posted, please.

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I'm Your Huckleberry 12-11-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2396295)
Just curious, what cards did you get for $375? Any pictures/scans we can look at?

These were 60's cards and I hope that I am wrong about my assumptions, they just seem too sharp after further inspection. Also a "GEM MINT" grade by a no name grading company should have been all the validation I needed to not bid, but I got caught up in the excitement of the auction. The Aaron card is not even the correct year on the slab label :/

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swarmee 12-11-2023 06:56 PM

Hank Aaron looks real, but without a right black border line, it will only grade AUTH by most grading companies (most of the time).

I'm Your Huckleberry 12-11-2023 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2396340)
Hank Aaron looks real, but without a right black border line, it will only grade AUTH by most grading companies (most of the time).

That makes me feel better then! I don't really care the grade, I just want it to be authentic. Thank you!!

I wanted to Edit my original reply: I only paid $50 for the Aaron, and if it comes back Authentic, I am fine with what I paid for it because I thought it looked really clean and I never plan to sell it. The Mantle was the bigger risk at $150, but I thought that was fair from other cards I saw being sold (if it is not counterfeit). I do plan to send these to SGC, so I will keep everyone posted!

ahmanfan 12-11-2023 09:11 PM

Mantle looks fake.


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I'm Your Huckleberry 12-12-2023 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ahmanfan (Post 2396366)
Mantle looks fake.


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That was what I was afraid of honestly.

rjackson44 12-12-2023 09:11 AM

Both look horrible sorry


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