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Republicaninmass 06-12-2019 08:26 PM

:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1888273)
Is nothing sacred with this guy?? I'm blown away at how many tainted cards are apparently out there!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2878

MOST Bought from PWCC
ALL sold by PWCC

Peter_Spaeth 06-12-2019 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1888273)
Is nothing sacred with this guy?? I'm blown away at how many tainted cards are apparently out there!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2878

What's sacred?

wait for it

Money

swarmee 06-22-2019 03:13 PM

Bump. Any answers, Brent?

swarmee 06-22-2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens (Post 1883895)
We are obviously very aware of the issues surrounding the cards submitted to us by Gary Moser. First, we want to apologize to all those who have been affected by the purchasing of trimmed or altered cards. We are not disappearing or burying our heads in the sand about this. Next, we are presently working with both PSA and law enforcement to ensure that all affected cards are brought to light and this information makes its way to our customers. We understand that we are responsible for our part in this mess and will do all that we can to make it right in connection with Moser-submitted cards as well as other submitters who may have altered cards of which we auctioned. We understand how difficult it is to be patient through this process but we are working through this as quickly as we can at the direction of counsel and the appropriate authorities. Finally, in response to these recent findings, we are no longer selling any Moser-submitted cards.

We are very sorry for the trouble that has occurred and will work to regain your trust.

Jerry Springer voice: And the lie detector test said, "That was a lie."

They're not going to bury their head in the sand, but by not logging into Blowout or Net54 in 20 days, I think they've basically done just that.

Peter_Spaeth 06-22-2019 03:21 PM

Yeah that was very sincere remorse.

jad22 06-22-2019 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1891664)
Jerry Springer voice: And the lie detector test said, "That was a lie."

They're not going to bury their head in the sand, but by not logging into Blowout or Net54 in 20 days, I think they've basically done just that.

That’s Maury Povich, with the lie detector. Springer would involve a brawl between buyers, trimmers, graders and PWCC.

swarmee 06-22-2019 03:26 PM

Good call; I thought him at first, but then I thought he couldn't still have a show. ;-)

jad22 06-22-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1891670)
Good call; I thought him at first, but then I thought he couldn't still have a show. ;-)

There are no signs of this slowing down. So many cards.

CMIZ5290 06-22-2019 05:11 PM

If you guys are waiting on a response from Brent.....GOOD LUCK, he's still laughing his ass off along with Probstein....

egbeachley 06-23-2019 03:08 PM

This is a good a place as any to mention BODA found a 2008 Moser purchase trimmed, graded, and sold by PWCC in Feb 2012.

I suppose that scam was fully operational them, those cards are just harder to find wading through 1000s of pages of old scans.

Peter_Spaeth 06-23-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1892027)
This is a good a place as any to mention BODA found a 2008 Moser purchase trimmed, graded, and sold by PWCC in Feb 2012.

I suppose that scam was fully operational them, those cards are just harder to find wading through 1000s of pages of old scans.

Their relationship goes back to at least the mid 2000s.

doug.goodman 06-26-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1883954)

Not aimed at a particular post, just at this thread (and the others) in general.

Thank you Adam for adding to my enjoyment.

Doug

BeanTown 06-26-2019 03:02 PM

So whats the normal time period before we start to see what happened and how it happened. 2 years?

swarmee 06-26-2019 07:49 PM

Sotheby's restorer claims to work on baseball cards, shows altered 1933 Goudey Gehrig as repaired on Facebook:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...297351&page=39
Scroll down a couple.

Rhotchkiss 06-28-2019 03:46 PM

This is a thread (very old net54), I just came across, involving Beckett, PWCC and a re-backed t206 red Cobb Drum. Interesting in today's Context.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=90096

Johnny630 06-28-2019 04:22 PM

Doctors will deny, prove it, it’s slabbed in a holder.

Auction Houses.....I didn’t know ?? Card was slabbed in a holder when was consigned to us.

PSA...brings no mention of it up....we are hiring graders and improving security measures along with taking pictures of all higher end cards submitted for grading. When you’re paying for a Opinion that’s all you get theirs is what it is....hard to be held accountable.

Outcomes from all this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OR PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE INVOLVED.

Card Trimmers and Doctors we all know who many of them are have Never been charged or found guilty of any crime.

People will still buy and submit to Newport Beach and SGC Hand over fist. People will still give their stuff to auction houses. Doctors will still be doing whatever they want....never been criminally prosecuted no consequence so why stop trying.

This cycle will continue to go on.....

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-28-2019 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1893800)
Doctors will deny, prove it, it’s slabbed in a holder.

Auction Houses.....I didn’t know ?? Card was slabbed in a holder when was consigned to us.

PSA...brings no mention of it up....we are hiring graders and improving security measures along with taking pictures of all higher end cards submitted for grading. When you’re paying for a Opinion that’s all you get theirs is what it is....hard to be held accountable.

Outcomes from all this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OR PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE INVOLVED.

Card Trimmers and Doctors we all know who many of them are have Never been charged or found guilty of any crime.

People will still buy and submit to Newport Beach and SGC Hans over fist. People will still give their stuff to auction houses. Doctors will still be doing whatever they want....never been criminally prosecuted no consequence so why stop trying.

This cycle will continue to go on.....

Wait, who's Hans?

Johnny630 06-28-2019 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1893825)
Wait, who's Hans?

Type Hand ie hand over fist

tschock 06-29-2019 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1893825)
Wait, who's Hans?

Hans Overfist. German boxer from the 1880s.

Johnny630 06-29-2019 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tschock (Post 1894003)
Hans Overfist. German boxer from the 1880s.

Lmao !!!


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