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RUKen 09-17-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2461596)
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the Ricardo Montalbán-esque guy at the far left not only seems to be older than the other guys, but he's also wearing a different hat and his bizarre turtleneck doesn't really jibe either. Perhaps he's from a different team?

This is almost certainly a spring training photo, because 1) they are all wearing coats or sweaters and 2) Pat Flaherty (3rd from the left) trained with the Pirates that spring but spent the entire season with Columbus in the American Association. In the first decade of the twentieth century, teams did not provide players with their uniforms for the upcoming season until shortly before the season began. The players wore their uniforms from the previous season while training. That was why I couldn't accept Sam Leever as #1, and finally settled on Vic Willis as my choice (he had been traded to the Pirates during that off-season) after finding an image of him looking to the right and smiling. (Sometimes players who had been in the minor leagues showed up without a uniform, and were lent one to wear during the spring. That is why I think my choice of Moskiman for #6 is plausible.)

RUKen 09-17-2024 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2461573)
These are taken from a 1906 Pirates team photo, do any of them look like a match for #1 or #6?

The image you've posted is from 1905. It was published in the Pittsburg Daily Post on April 9th of that year.

Cliff Bowman 09-17-2024 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RUKen (Post 2461606)
The image you've posted is from 1905. It was published in the Pittsburg Daily Post on April 9th of that year.

Whew, I'm glad you told me now before I posted who I thought was on the photo and had quite a few wrong, I thought it was a 1906 team photo because that is what the eBay seller has it listed as. https://www.ebay.com/itm/40210091525...625TAZA&edge=0

Cliff Bowman 09-17-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RUKen (Post 2461602)
This is almost certainly a spring training photo. In the first decade of the twentieth century, teams did not provide players with their uniforms for the upcoming season until shortly before the season began. The players wore their uniforms from the previous season while training.

Ahh, that would explain why Joe Nealon (in black) doesn't have a uniform either, 1906 was his first season in the big leagues.

Bucs9 10-09-2024 08:29 AM

Consensus
 
Thank you all so much for your efforts! So, what is the consensus?
Lou

RUKen 10-09-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucs9 (Post 2466593)
Thank you all so much for your efforts! So, what is the consensus?
Lou

I don't think there's a consensus, but my final IDs are:

Willis / Ganley / Flaherty / Nealon / Ritchey / Moskiman / Wagner

The most lingering disagreements seem to be #1 and #6 (numbered from the left). I've included photos in my earlier messages to support my picks of Willis and Moskiman.


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