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came across this on ebay - I have never seen one before thought id post it & instead of starting a new thread this should do - im not a sig collector but wish I could afford this one -
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Here's a photo of all the players in the Addie Joss Benefit game : ( no player in dark uniform on the field )
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Research Casts New Light on Authenticity of “Shoeless Joe” Jackson’s T202 Rookie Card
The detective work that played out on this Net54 forum in May-June 2010 remains a fascinating display of suspicion, research and ingenuity. The community meticulously evaluated and debated every pixel of the card, every piece of historical context, and made remarkable discoveries.
What seems to be lacking in the decade since the discovery is the story of the actual in-game photograph and Shoeless Joe’s distinctive right-ankle wrap that provides smoking-gun evidence. Those stories, along with a bit of new research and a summary of the Net54 findings, were recently published at the CollectingLegends.com website. |
Welcome to the forum. Nice first post.
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One of the few middle panels I have from the set.
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I have had my antique booth in Destin open since last March, and had the middle panel of sliding into third listed for $30 as "possible Shoeless Joe" and it didn't sell. So I brought it back home today when I restocked my booth. (Should have said panel is not for sale.)
I sold more in this month at the store than I did in all the months before June (14 of them) combined. |
This is what net 54 does best
This was a great thread. I definitely enjoyed reading it.
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Greenville Baseball Team
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Greenville Baseball Team - who does the guy in the backseat with the turtle neck look like?
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man I'm normally a massive skeptic on posts like these, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look a lot like him. Appears to my inexpert eye to even pass the ear test, and he played for Greenville in 1908. BTW Not a turtle neck, apparently popped collars go back a lot further than the 80s! Look at the player in the front of the car for a clearer example.
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That does look a lot like Joe, but the dude in car seems to have more of a squared off and larger chin than Jackson. Could just be the angle...
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Incoming ear analysis...
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Not even close, IMO. Different eyes, facial structure, chin, etc. The guy in the car is skinnier and neck is much longer than Joe’s.
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Gotta be Paul Waner...not a doubt in my mind. :rolleyes:
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I'm no forensic scientist, but when you adjust size and tilt the features line up exactly. eyes same distance apart, nose same length, heavy shadow under the overhang of the lower lip, when you drag one over the other everything lines up 100% It's kind of amazing that the angle of both photos was so similar, which made this easier.
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The slight differences in the contours of the face can be attributed to my amateur crop job.
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I don't think it looks like him.
Also, there are 34 cities named Greenville in the U.S. Can we see the back of the postcard? |
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Also, Love the thread, had never seen it before. |
This site, https://www.valuablepostcards.com/search?q=greenville, states this is Greenville, GA 1909. Sold for $374 in July 2020. And the PC sold on ebay with 28 bids.
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Here's Jackson with the correct 1908 Greenville team.
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[QUOTE=Bicem;2108053]Here's Jackson with the correct 1908 Greenville team./QUOTE]
That squatting player does look a lot like Shoeless Joe. But seriously, Joe has a much younger look in this photo compared to the Greenville Car Gang photo. Brian |
Thanks for the post Jeff, that player next to Joe resembles the car guy photo, any idea who that is?
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I do not think that it is Joe Jackson either. Not even close to me. |
I never said it was Joe Jackson, but it sure looks like him - and ironic he is in a Greenville jersey. Would not be surprised if he was a close relative of Joe Jackson (he had brothers). Sideburns are the only real difference I see.
If this guy was a Trump supporter, at the Capitol on 6 January, the FBI would have arrested Joe Jackson by now... |
I see the resemblance, I mean how many other people do you know that have two eyes, a nose and a mouth.
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The player sliding bears a certain resemblance to Shoeless Joe.
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So had to look since I got caught up in the mystery of this thread.
This guy on eBay has 3 of them for sale (1 auction) and he identifies them as JOE JACKSON cards. Has the theory been proven as of now? The thread started over 10 years ago. https://www.ebay.com/itm/22461198152...IAAOSwhelhQrQe |
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There is supposedly another one: T202 McBride-Milan ( Schaeffer Holding First) . The card sold on Ebay over the weekend and the seller said that Joe Jackson is in that one also. |
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