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Posted By: Chris Bland
Saw this on ebay and decided to roll the dice a bit - I am not sure what this piece is exactly - does anyone here have any thoughts? Thanks in advance |
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Posted By: chris
saw this one too, but forgot about it...would be interested to hear other opinions also.. |
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Posted By: D
NM |
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Posted By: Joe D.
The seller mentions in the Question and Answer portion that it is NOT an acutal signature (but rather part of the negative). |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Joe, you and I were on the same page...and considering he had a Gehrig w/wife photo in the same type of cabinet folder it just didn't seem right to me. |
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Posted By: Mark L
Honus's uniform looks like the one they wore in 1912. I know that they added pinstripes a couple years later but could have used the uni in the picture at any time, I guess. Right now I can't find the website that chronicles this stuff. |
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Posted By: Chris Bland
Seller offered a 7 day return, so at worst I will send it back. Without the return policy, I would never have bid... |
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Posted By: Mark L
Thanks Dan |
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Posted By: Steve M.
Auction just closed yesterday. Paypal not offered. Can't imagine that you've paid yet. Are you planning on paying then getting the item and then sending it back? Or are you going to pay, get the item, and then decide? |
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Posted By: Dave
I know that I have seen this picture before. It might be in the Smithsonian book but I can't remember. I do remember printing a copy of it at home and giving it to a friend about a year ago. If someone has the book available, maybe they can look it up. |
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Posted By: Chris Bland
Steve |
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Posted By: Steve f
Looks like a cut n paste dugout image was this possible at such high quality? The bluish fading is weird. The way the frame is shaped (pointing downward into his head) doesn't seem thought out. The seller appears honest and knowledgeable, but I'm not so sure I agree on this. His shoes are shiny, so it may well be a studio shot. Skeptical here,hope I'm wrong, that's a lotta dough for even an old reprint -Once bitten twice shy. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I don't like the fact that these photos are in the foldout type of cabinet that you usually see reserved for graduation or family photos. Not to mention this guys dates are way off especially on the Gehrig photo which he says is from 1927, pencil written in "1928" which is odd since the Yankees didn't wear uniforms with the NY on the front until 1936. |
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Posted By: Mark
have some kind of color variation from being in the sleeve? At least an outline from being in the holder for many years. |
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Posted By: Chris Bland
I am pretty certain that the photo and the green frame are not original to each other (the studio names are different). I am not really considering the green frame as a true part of the cabinet. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
If I am not mistaken, the picture in the Smithsonian book has the same bluish tint on the bottom as well. I can check when I get home if someone else doesn't have it handy. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
My guess is it isn't genuine. |
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Posted By: Chris Bland
I am going to have to back out of this one - too many red flags. I guess its one of those times where its too good to be true (my first thought when I won it for that price - if it were real and period it would have had a lot more interest). |
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Posted By: Dave F
I would back out as well..however, to avoid a possible negative I would offer the seller at this point to pay for seller fees. Don't know what else you could really do. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
As the seller's description has clear, unarguable errors (1928 date, folder original part of photo), it's reasonable for a bidder to take back bids. If a bidder discovered a seller misdated a baseball card by 11+ years or the 'original' box for the toy is not original, it would be fair enough for a bidder to take back a bid. It's the responsibility of the seller to get the material facts correct. |
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Posted By: chris bland
I am going to offer to pay his seller fees plus a little extra for his trouble. I dont think he is being dishonest, i am sure he doesnt know any better what it really is than I do. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
I sort of got the impression that the seller innocently bought the Wagner and Gehrig |
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Posted By: Greg
I believe the photo is the same one used on well known rare pinback that says "Honus Wagner for Sheriff". |
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Posted By: Anonymous
If you and the seller agree not to complete the transaction ebay will refund the fees. If there are inconsistencies in his auction, or misrepresenting an item you are in the right, and dont have to complete payment, and wont be found of any wrong doing in a dispute. |
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Posted By: Denny
A Pocketbook!? (justa jokin') |
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Posted By: Kyle
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Posted By: Steve f
Maybe it's the European Carry-All. |
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