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Old 07-12-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default E107 - Type I vs. Type II

Posted By: Hal Lewis

In looking at the article in the new Old Cardboard magazine...

I see where they have the Type I Lajoie card right next to the Type II Lajoie card.

In examining them closely...

it looks like the Type II cards have thinner borders...

because the PHOTOS on the Type II cards are BIGGER than they are on the Type I's.

The font is the same... but look how much wider the Type II photo goes out past the lettering on the bottom of the card.

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The importance of this is that the Type II cards are NOT cut "thinner" than the Type I cards... they just LOOK like they are.

The dimensions of the cardboard is the same... so bigger photo means smaller borders.

This, along with the printing on the back of Type II cards, is more solid evidence in support of the Type II cards having NOT been "cut from a box."

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:21 AM
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Posted By: scott brockelman

hal,

the photos make it look like the same size, but they are not. the type 2 photo has been enlarged in the magazine to fit for presententaion beside the type 1. in reality the central image of both, frameline to frameline, top to bottom and side to side are the same, if you look close you will see there is no difference in cropping of the photo either.

i still have 2 other type 2 to compare with their type 2 counterparts and the same is true central image is exactly the same size, one card is smaller overall and guess what the other has normal large E107 borders(the only type 2 i have seen this large).

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:47 AM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

OK, this explains why I have never noticed it before. I don't have a Type I Lajoie to use as a comparison to my Type II, so the magazine was my first chance to see them side by side. The enlargement of one photo explains the situation.

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:29 PM
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We all know how tough e107's are, but how tough are blank backs?

DJ

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:38 PM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

The blanked back E107's and the regular E107's are about 50/50 in my experience, but others may differ slightly.

It is the one with the purple "Breisch Williams" stamp on the back that are very rare.

But then again...

as we have discussed on this board before...

how hard would it be to create such a stamp and "add" that feature to your cards?? I really don't know.

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:45 PM
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Posted By: DJ

Thanks Hal.

After I wrote the Post, I saw a blank backed (irony) in the 19thCenturyonly auction and bidding was kind of low ($330 for a hammered common) and the description used the word scarcer. I've seen roughly 15-20 one of 150 backed versions over the last 12-18 months or so and this was the first blank back.

Thanks again.

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In my experience, I'd tend to agree with Hal in that they are just about equal, perhaps giving the slight edge to the blank backs being a bit more common. But no, it doesn't swing significantly one way or another.

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Posted By: Andy Baran

I may be wrong, but I believe that all known Type 2 backs are BLANK. I don't think that any are known with the "one one one hundred fifty" printing on the back. However, I think there is confusion because Scott B has a Type 2 with a Blank Back that has the Breisch Williams Overprint on the back.

Scott, is this correct?

If this is the case, it is still possible that the Type 2's were cut out of something. No one knows exactly how and when the overprints were applied.

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Old 07-15-2005, 06:38 AM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Brian's article mentions a Type II with the "150 players" printing on the back...

but as you know, it certainly isn't my Lajoie...

so hopefully he will clarify.

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Old 07-15-2005, 07:22 AM
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Posted By: scott brockelman

as andy stated i do have a delehanty with the overprint back, not the 150 series back. i now anyone that i have spoken with who collects this issue has ever seen a Type 2 with a printed back. the overprint that i have is also the only Type 2 known to exist with the overprint. the origin of such we may never know.

the overprints are much scarcer than the 150 or blank backs, possibly 10-1.

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