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Old 01-18-2017, 05:31 PM
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Default FYI....T206 BROAD LEAF 460 confirmed list

This is the 5th (part B) of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date listing of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

This thread is an integral part of this comprehensive thread started in 2010...... " Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys ".
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=132611&page=6





NOTE....BROAD LEAF 460 cards are ONLY in the 350/460 series. These 35 subjects (of 63 subjects) in this series were theoretically printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 backs.

Group A
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As of today, these 27 subjects have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)


There are 8 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Ames (hands above head)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (portrait-yellow).................super-print
Chase (blue).................................super-print
Chase (dark cap)...........................super-print
Donlin (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Magee (bat)


If you have (or know of) any of these 8 guys with BROAD LEAF 460 backs, please show and/or tell us of them.

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Last edited by tedzan; 06-30-2019 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Correct typo.
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:23 PM
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Ted, sincere thanks for all your work and effort putting together these checklists. I have only been a member for a short while, but have gotten a ton out of your lists (new and old threads, as well as articles you have penned) and it's an incredible help that you do this. You are a true asset to the t206 society!

Meanwhile, anyone have BL HOFer they want to part with? (I understand that's a question better left for BST so please private message or email).

Thanks again Ted
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Ted, how many of each BL460 do you think there are? and do you see any players that seem more common than the rest?

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I know of at least two Gabby Street BL 460s.
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Hi Ted,

Believe you have the card pictured, but can you add Cy Seymour to the confirmed list?

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Default Seymour BL 460s

I hear Seymour and I have to chime in.. here is the pair.. the link from the prior post is the PSA 4



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As of today, these 27 subjects have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)*Seymour (throwing
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)


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Hi Chris R

Seymour is on my list (on the same line as Rucker). Just my bad typo.

It will be corrected.

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Ted, thank you for clarifying; I should have looked closer at the list. Your contributions to the knowledgebase, especially on T206 are much appreciated!

Jamie, I remember we had messaged about that card a while back. Glad you were able to acquire it!
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Ted, how many of each BL460 do you think there are? and do you see any players that seem more common than the rest?

DJ
Hi DJ

For what ever it's worth, here is the current SGC Pop Report data on these 27 guys......

1....Baker
1....M. Brown (Chicago)
1....Cobb (red portrait)
1....Davis (A's)
1....Doolan (bat)
0....Dougherty (arm in air)
1....Downey (bat)
1....Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
1....Evers (bat-yellow sky)
0....Griffith (bat)
1....Johnson (pitching)
2....Joss (pitching)
1....Kleinow (Boston)
2....Konetchy (glove low)
2....Mathewson (dark cap)
1....McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
2....Murphy (bat)
1....O'Leary (hands on knees)
2....Reulbach (no glove)
3....Rucker (throwing)
1....Seymour (throwing)
1....Snodgrass (catching)
0....Stahl (glove)
2....Street (catching)
2....Sweeney (fielding)
4....Willis (throwing)
1....Cy Young (glove)



I'll leave it up to some one else to do the homework on the PSA Pop Report data on these 27 guys.


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Interesting stuff, Thanks.

Just curious though, the cards I have say dist N.Y. or VA which I assume were factories in New York and Virginia. Were rare backs such as the Broad Leaf mainly distributed in a certain area of the country?
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Interesting stuff, Thanks.


Just curious though, the cards I have say dist N.Y. or VA which I assume were factories in New York and Virginia. Were rare backs such as the Broad Leaf mainly distributed in a certain area of the country?
T206 rare backs are found through out the country. This is primarily due to people moving from their original residences with their collections.
So nowadays, it is difficult to pinpoint the original source of most rare backs.

However, we are certain that DRUM cards were distributed in the St Louis area.

Factory #30 (NY) cards were mainly distributed in New York and the New England states.

Factory #25 (VA) cards were mainly distributed in states throughout the South and Pennsylvania.

There was a large find of red HINDU cards from Texas in recent years (although this is not necessarily indicative of their original distribution).

Factory #3 (LA) cards COUPON (T213-2 & T213-3) and Factory #8 (LA) cards VICTORY (T214) were distributed in packs of COUPON cigarettes
manufactured in Louisiana.
The 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards were distributed in cartons containing 100's of cigarettes.


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However, we are certain that DRUM cards were distributed in the St Louis area.

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I live 35 miles from St Louis in an older town so visiting some estate sales my be beneficial. Thanks, Larry
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Ted you can update the pop report on the seymour to 2.
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Ted you can update the pop report on the seymour to 2.

Hey Jamie, great to hear from you.

Your photo shows an SGC and a PSA graded Seymour's. The Pop Report data I listed in Post #9 pertains only to SGC graded cards. And, I assumed that the one for Seymour
in the SGC data accounts for your card.....since an SGC 30 is listed.


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Default FYI....T206 BROAD LEAF 460 confirmed list

This is the 5th (part B) of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date listing of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

This thread is an integral part of this comprehensive thread started in 2010...... " Consolidated access to the 15 - T206 T-brand (front/back) surveys ".
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=132611&page=6





NOTE....BROAD LEAF 460 cards are ONLY in the 350/460 series. These 35 subjects (of 63 subjects) in this series were theoretically printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 backs.

Group A
.



To date, these 28 of the above 35 subjects have been confirmed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back......

Baker
M. Brown (Chicago)
Cobb (red portrait)........................super-print
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)...................super-print
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Mathewson (dark cap)....................super-print
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove)

Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
Cy Young (glove)



There are 7 subjects from this group that have yet to be discovered. I expect these T206's will eventually be found with BROAD LEAF 460 backs......

Ames (hands above head)
Bender (no trees)
Chance (portrait-yellow).................super-print
Chase (blue).................................super-print
Chase (dark cap)...........................super-print
Larry Doyle (bat)
Magee (bat)


New find........
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Quick follow up on this purchase. I removed the Donlin and believe it or not it has a Broadleaf 460 back. Pretty good day!!
What an amazing find....it's your "Lucky day"....Baseballcrazy62


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