1951 Bowman RC Willie Mays PSA 6 and PSA 4 -Sold

[1952boyntoncollector]

I wish the cards had greater centering but they are what the are and there are many worse centered examples out there and with printer lines etc

Willie Mays PSA 4 Asking $3500 net to me Sold
Willie Mays PSA 6 Asking $8500 net to me Sold

Since a price is listed..anyone asking 'whats the lowest you can take' will be met with 'whats the highest you can offer'

Thanks for looking.

cards sold, if someone asks me who is new to the site and wants to know how much i want for these cards, i may ask them how much are they going to offer for the cards listed.(not saying they are still for sale)..maybe i contact the new owner if the offer isnt a lowball.....if offer is a lowball than maybe i say 'thanks for the fair offer but the cards are sold'...

[CMIZ5290]

What is the best price you can do on the 6? Thanks....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

What is the best price you can do on the 6? Thanks....

I can speed this up a little, what is the highest you can offer? (while not verbatim, I think that is what the OP stated he would ask back of that question to him)

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can speed this up a little, what is the highest you can offer? (while not verbatim, I think that is what the OP stated he would ask back of that question to him)

Fair enough, $2k for the PSA 6, thanks...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Fair enough, $2k for the PSA 6, thanks...

ok, the offer is $8600 now, your turn.

[pokerplyr80]

Tough crowd. Those seem like reasonable prices for an iconic and hot card. Good luck with your sale.

He is right when a price is listed it should be up to the potential buyer to make an offer if he wants a discount. For those sellers who refuse to list prices asking for one is reasonable.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Leon

ok, the offer is $8600 now, your turn.

Come on Leon, what exactly are you getting at?? This guy has been a parasite on numerous threads I have made along with a ton of other N54 members. I did what you asked, I made him an offer, of which he has yet to decline....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Tough crowd. Those seem like reasonable prices for an iconic and hot card. Good luck with your sale.

He is right when a price is listed it should be up to the potential buyer to make an offer if he wants a discount. For those sellers who refuse to list prices asking for one is reasonable.

Really Jesse? SMR price for a PSA 6 is $5200, he wants $8500 for an off centered card. Also, the hot run of top rookies has mainly been very high graded cards (8's and higher)

[gnaz01]

VCP shows this last one sold most recently for $15K a few weeks ago, albeit a better centered example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-...p2047675.l2557

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

VCP shows this last one sold most recently for $15K a few weeks ago, albeit a better centered example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-...p2047675.l2557

Baffling Greg, but I saw the card. Perfectly centered, but bad wax stains on the back. SMR price for a 7 is $11,500, this card in a 6 sells for $15K, and PSA adjusts these SMR prices on a regular basis. Does not make any sense at all...

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Really Jesse? SMR price for a PSA 6 is $5200, he wants $8500 for an off centered card. Also, the hot run of top rookies has mainly been very high graded cards (8's and higher)

Agreed that most of the run on the rookies has been higher grade, but the Mantle and Mays have always held value well at the lower grades. And SMR? Who looks at SMR for high end cards? It's rarely accurate. A centered 6 just went for 15k. A 7 is sitting at over 19k with a couple of hours left. Not centered. 8k for a 6 will look like a bargain soon.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Agreed that most of the run on the rookies has been higher grade, but the Mantle and Mays have always held value well at the lower grades. And SMR? Who looks at SMR for high end cards? It's rarely accurate. A centered 6 just went for 15k. A 7 is sitting at over 19k with a couple of hours left. Not centered. 8k for a 6 will look like a bargain soon.

Fair enough. I'll make this simple mathematics. A PSA 6 Mays (supposedly) sold for $15K. Mantle is worth considerably more than double the SMR price of Mays ($11,500 vs. $5200). I have a PSA 6 Mantle that I would be more than happy to sell for $30K. Please email me for PPal info...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Come on Leon, what exactly are you getting at?? This guy has been a parasite on numerous threads I have made along with a ton of other N54 members. I did what you asked, I made him an offer, of which he has yet to decline....

CMIZE- Seriously? its a b/s/t thread...i dont think its appropriate to comment negatively on b/s/t in most situations...i dont think i said anything in this thread for you to act like juvenile here and talking down a card price, all i did was put an asking price and list a card and you are acting inappropriately here and i think everyone woudl agree

i would think if someone is selling a cards in the 10k range, it would be polite to keep the schoolboy antics in another thread, unless you are schoolboy rowe...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Fair enough. I'll make this simple mathematics wise. A PSA 6 Mays (supposedly) sold for $15K. Mantle is more than double the SMR price of Mays. I have a PSA 6 Mantle that I would be more than happy to sell for $30K. Please email me for PPal info...

Why not list your Mantle and we can discuss the aspects of a price you ask for (if you even put a price)...thats the future of b/s/t on net54?

Also if you going to quote SMR for key cards its a bit silly especially when you cant point to any listings that are selling a similar card for that ...

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

CMIZE- Seriously? its a b/s/t thread...i dont think its appropriate to comment negatively on b/s/t in most situations...i dont think i said anything in this thread for you to act like juvenile here and talking down a card price, all i did was put an asking price and list a card and you are acting inappropriately here and i think everyone woudl agree

i would think if someone is selling a cards in the 10k range, it would be polite to keep the schoolboy antics in another thread, unless you are schoolboy rowe...

Schoolboy Rowe? Fantastic pitcher for the Tigers, nice compliment...

[1952boyntoncollector]

CMIZE is at it again.


Here we go again...everyone was quoting SMR on those green cobbs, and the 1952 Mays, and the 1952 PSA 7.5 banks...people ask why i bring those up..because history continues to repeat itself..i have another wiseguy bring up SMR , which shouldnt even be discussed on b/s/t by the way..

I guess Leon cant ask for more than SMR on this cards either...SMR is the only thing that matters apparently..

[CMIZ5290]

You are right about the SMR price comments, I do apologize for that....

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Fair enough. I'll make this simple mathematics. A PSA 6 Mays (supposedly) sold for $15K. Mantle is worth considerably more than double the SMR price of Mays ($11,500 vs. $5200). I have a PSA 6 Mantle that I would be more than happy to sell for $30K. Please email me for PPal info...

Since you seem to think SMR is so accurate I will offer you SMR + 25% for your 51 Mantle. Sight unseen. I will, of course, want to verify scans before transferring funds, but I can send tonight if you can ship tomorrow.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Since you seem to think SMR is so accurate I will offer you SMR + 25% for your 51 Mantle. Sight unseen. I will, of course, want to verify scans before transferring funds, but I can send tonight if you can ship tomorrow.

please see post# 12....

[Bestdj777]

Great cards. Good luck with the sale!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

please see post# 12....

Please see post 18. I doubt your Mantle is centered well enough to justify the premium that the recent Mays got. If it is I will adjust my offer accordingly.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Please see post 18. I doubt your Mantle is centered well enough to justify the premium that the recent Mays got. If it is I will adjust my offer accordingly.

News Flash Jesse! Dont worry yourself about it! My point was SMR prices are only one of many guide lines in the value of a card. This is an off centered 6 with about a 60% premium over the SMR price. Please move on as I will as well. Last post from me on this subject....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

News Flash Jesse! Dont worry yourself about it! My point was SMR prices are only one of many guide lines in the value of a card. This is an off centered 6 with about a 60% premium over the SMR price. Please move on as I will as well. Last post from me on this subject....

there are far worse centered examples of the Mays than the ones listed here....

again why bring up SMR.....the price is also 30%+ less than what centered 6s have gone for ...but why are you taking another jab at the price in your LAST post of the thread.its a b/s/t thread...its yet another inappropriate comment by you......CMIZE loves his SMR.......

funny you compare prices here to SMR....when you list a 8OC..you compare it to a 8 price wise......or when its a SGC 8 card you sellling you compare it to a PSA 8 Jessie is comparing a PSA 6 with a PSA 6, yes there are differences for centering and the pricing reflects that..the pricing doesnt reflect your beloved SMR though.

you obviously have no interest in the Mays..so why bother to post....lets see if you keep your word that is the LAST post by you here...


that Centered 7 that Jessie was referring to just sold for 27.2k, whats SMR?

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2047675.l2565

[Rookiemonster]

A psa 7 mays just ended on eBay for 27,000 .

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

A psa 7 mays just ended on eBay for 27,000 .

it cant be..that would be waaaay more than SMR? so no way thats true

[Rookiemonster]

Hahaha great cards !if I had the cash I would scoop both those up .

[Leon]

Kevin you antagonized and I didn't help the situation. There should be no back and forth about historical prices UNLESS the OP starts the conversation in BST areas, everyone here knows that. But this got out of hand and my apologies for my part on that. No members should interfere especially in a negative way on the BST. thanks

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

Kevin you antagonized and I didn't help the situation. There should be no back and forth about historical prices UNLESS the OP starts the conversation in BST areas, everyone here knows that. But this got out of hand and my apologies for my part on that. No members should interfere especially in a negative way on the BST. thanks

Now you were a good agent....maybe next time i wont list a price and you can handle the offers leon..

[DanP]

FWIW... I sold my PSA 6 51 Bowman Mays a couple of weeks ago on eBay for $8k. I think he's $8,500 starting price is fair based on the last 2 sales ($15k, $8k).

I don't know why my sale was not recorded by VCP.

Good luck!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DanP

FWIW... I sold my PSA 6 51 Bowman Mays a couple of weeks ago on eBay for $8k. I think he's $8,500 starting price is fair based on the last 2 sales ($15k, $8k).

I don't know why my sale was not recorded by VCP.

Good luck!

It just wierd out of all the b/s/ts of all the starting asking prices...that my thread received the most criticism when there are exact sales history that more than support it. You will see cards that there are no prior sales within $1000s of what a guy is asking yet nobody is quoting SMR or providing negative inputs on their cards... Plus i have a history of selling cards at great prices when just looking back a month after the sale et which i have cited and net54 members enjoy that.(green cobbs, 1952 Mays, Jackie, Banks 7.5, Kaline psa7) i do believe this 1951 Bowman Mays will be added to that list.....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Cards sold...amazingly for a lot more than SMR...hard to believe...took what 4 or so days and no 'price reductions'

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Cards sold...amazingly for a lot more than SMR...hard to believe...took what 4 or so days and no 'price reductions'

Congrats Jake! It just goes to show that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn.....Who was the lucky buyer by the way??

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I wish the cards had greater centering but they are what the are and there are many worse centered examples out there and with printer lines etc

Willie Mays PSA 4 Asking $3500 net to me Sold
Willie Mays PSA 6 Asking $8500 net to me Sold

Since a price is listed..anyone asking 'whats the lowest you can take' will be met with 'whats the highest you can offer'

Thanks for looking.

cards sold, if someone asks me who is new to the site and wants to know how much i want for these cards, i may ask them how much are they going to offer for the cards listed.(not saying they are still for sale)..maybe i contact the new owner if the offer isnt a lowball.....if offer is a lowball than maybe i say 'thanks for the fair offer but the cards are sold'...

Can you please tell me in English what you just said?? Holy cow...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Can you please tell me in English what you just said?? Holy cow....What if the offer is a high ball?

if they going to be quoting SMR it not gonna be a high ball dont you worry.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

if they going to be quoting SMR it not gonna be a high ball dont you worry.

Ok, makes sense....thanks

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Congrats Jake! It just goes to show that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn.....Who was the lucky buyer by the way??

so your 'witty' comeback about the cards you said were way overpriced but the market disagreed and they sold in 4 days is that the buyer is an idiot....please list the buyers on your sold listings and i will in turn...thanks

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so your 'witty' comeback about the cards you said were way overpriced but the market disagreed and they sold in 4 days is that the buyer is an idiot....please list the buyers on your sold listings and i will in turn...thanks

Where did I say the "potential" buyer was an idiot? Are you crazy or what?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Where did I say the "potential" buyer was an idiot? Are you crazy or what?

right a blind squirrel represents a very intelligent buyer....yeah im crazy not to know that..

If you want to keep going back and forth here, Im going to start quoting SMR on your b/s/t and post any past sales on comparable cards you are selling, that may deter people in buying your cards....basically doing what you attempted to do here on this thread..... its your call...

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right a blind squirrel represents a very intelligent buyer....yeah im crazy not to know that.

I was talking about you! Oh my God you beat all I've ever seen. Having said that, take this offline if you want. It is not fair to other members viewing the BST. My email is: kmize1999@yahoo.com

[pokerplyr80]

Nice cards at fair prices tend to sell quickly. Congrats on the sale.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I was talking about you! Oh my God you beat all I've ever seen. Having said that, take this offline if you want. It is not fair to other members viewing the BST. My email is: kmize1999@yahoo.com

you told me never to email you again (and said you 'you told' on me to Leon) and now you are mr communication. Just behave on b/s/t and be normal is all i ask..thanks

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Nice cards at fair prices tend to sell quickly. Congrats on the sale.

thanks jessie, we go after the same cards and i think we know what a lot of these cards go for..i know i have never regretting buying these types of cards but i have regretted selling them.....will probably add these cards to the list of great deals people have gotten from me ....time will tell...